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2008-10-08 Iraq

US dropped nuclear bomb near Basra in 1991, claims veteran

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-10-08 15:20|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 RaiNews24 said that 45-year-old Brown was originally a fourth-level engineer in the US Army and was demoted to third-level after health problems, following a vaccination against chemical weapons.

Can someone translate that into real ranks in English? I didn't know the Army had "third level" or "fourth level" engineers.

Posted by Tranquil Mechanical Yeti 2008-10-08 15:32|| 2008-10-08 15:32|| Front Page Top

#2 only 'conventional' weapons had been used

Unless you count the 'chemical weapon' of all the smoke and unburned/partially burned hydrocarbon compounds from all those oil wells - I can certainly believe that sustained exposure to that stuff could cause tumors and other health problems.

Posted by Glenmore 2008-10-08 15:36|| 2008-10-08 15:36|| Front Page Top

#3 I recall an article written by a British serviceman - maybe SAS, but not certain. The article described their witnessing the detonation of a BLU-82 (volkswagen sized FAE) from the Kafj area. When the device went off, the quote was "The blokes have nuked Kuwait".

Posted by Rob06">Rob06 2008-10-08 15:42|| 2008-10-08 15:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Nonsense. Nuking a city is not something that just slips under the radar. Their were NGOs and inspection teams all over Iraq during the 90s and someone would have noticed the crater and radiation.

IN a previous age this guy would have been laughed off by even our enemies. It just goes to show how logic and the burden of proof are no longer required for many.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-10-08 15:46|| 2008-10-08 15:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Look for radiation traces, even today. That would clarify this instantly, unless, of course, Saddam had a nuke facility in the area.

That, or he spotted one of our experimental non-radioactive nuclear field tests. Don't tell anyone, but the secret ingredient is powdered water, instead of heavy water.

Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2008-10-08 16:22|| 2008-10-08 16:22|| Front Page Top

#6 My son-in-law was with the 24th ID during the first Gulf war, and has some interesting stories, but nothing about nukes. A FAE bomb, or even an old 25,000-pound monster dropped from a C-130, could cause a "5kt seismic event". The other problem is the size of the weapon. Most US weapons are at least 20kt in size, since anything less than that can be accomplished with "clean" conventional weapons - it just takes a few more of them.

The US veteran, Jim Brown was not present during the alleged launch of the bomb and it is not clear how he obtained the information.

It's been 18 years, and this is the first we've heard of this. We're also hearing from someone who's passing along second-hand information. I don't find much credence in this "testimony".

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-10-08 16:30|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-10-08 16:30|| Front Page Top

#7 rjschwarz: You are probably spot on. When the Brits, I think also that they were SAS, spotted the detonation at an ammo dump or motor park, they thought it was a nuclear blast. And they said so on the radio.

And the war very quickly came to a screeching halt.

Nobody did anything until it was figured out, because as flash traffic, it has priority over all other radio communications. Everybody else shuts up like hell.

The US military and government had to really jump through the hoops to prove it to everybody at a diplomatic and military level as well. This meant the entire UNSC, NATO, Israel, and just about every other nation with a telephone.

We probably even contacted Saddam to assure him it was NOT a nuke. And probably had the Russians in on the conference call to back us up.

This happened as well during WWII, because Americans referred to gasoline as "gas" in the clear radio transmissions, and the Germans freaked out. This is why to this day the Army calls it MOGAS.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-10-08 17:13|| 2008-10-08 17:13|| Front Page Top

#8 Perhaps it is your rank of Technical Specialist 4th Class for the engineer?

Posted by Lagom 2008-10-08 17:27|| 2008-10-08 17:27|| Front Page Top

#9 I think he was a PFC.

Pretty Fucking Clueless.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-10-08 17:44|| 2008-10-08 17:44|| Front Page Top

#10 "The US veteran, Jim Brown was not present during the alleged launch of the bomb and it is not clear how he obtained the information."

It's clear to me. He pulled it out of his ass.

My only question is ~~who's paying him to lie like a rug~~ his motivation.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-10-08 18:36|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-10-08 18:36|| Front Page Top

#11 I've obtained memos that show that it happened..

Posted by D. Rather 2008-10-08 19:02|| 2008-10-08 19:02|| Front Page Top

#12 AFAIK there is no "Technical Specialist 4th class" rank.

SOME of the people with the rank of E-4 carry the title "Specialist," but it's not a 4th class tech specialist.

I suggest this link:

[http://www.army.mil/symbols/Enlisteddescriptions.html].

Posted by Tranquil Mechanical Yeti 2008-10-08 19:15|| 2008-10-08 19:15|| Front Page Top

#13 Check the fonts, Dan. The fonts!

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2008-10-08 19:32|| 2008-10-08 19:32|| Front Page Top

#14 Riiiigggghhttttt........ Does this guy understand about Nuclear Release Authority?

'Like - Nuclear Release Authority is going to be given to hit a high-value....... "deserted area"? WTF?

This guy makes "troofers" loom rational.

What next? Soldier sexually molesting fire hydrants? Torturing waste baskets? Executing palm trees?

The guy's a fourth-level retard.

Posted by Lone Ranger 2008-10-08 21:00|| 2008-10-08 21:00|| Front Page Top

#15 Jim Brown - still active after the Dirty Dozen? I think not

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-10-08 21:17|| 2008-10-08 21:17|| Front Page Top

#16 Lone ranger: not retard, please. The developmentally disabled have more sense, more good nature, and generally better character.

Posted by mom ">mom 2008-10-08 22:09|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-10-08 22:09|| Front Page Top

#17 ...and then they turned me into a newt!

Posted by SteveS 2008-10-08 23:30|| 2008-10-08 23:30|| Front Page Top

#18 shhhh... Bush (and McCain) drop atomic bombs whenever they feel like it, killing millions, maybe even billions of innocent children. But their minions cover it all up. They probably will start dropping them on Iran any day now.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-08 23:57|| 2008-10-08 23:57|| Front Page Top

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