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2013-09-24 Home Front: Politix
R.I.P A-10 Warthog
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Posted by Crineck Sholump8581 2013-09-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 Move them to Ft Rucker and let the Army fly them. Us dogs love those 'hawgs. They work great with helicopters, hammer/anvil teams. USAF fighter mafia always hated mud movers anyway. Flight warrants probably do just as well, if not better, as dedicated ground support pilots. US Army operates other fixed wing, so just add these in.
Posted by OldSpook 2013-09-24 00:27||   2013-09-24 00:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Real reason? F22 and f35 are what they want to go to, even if they aren't as effective in the CAS role for LIC/COIN. Fecking zoomies, they forget who it always comes down to: boots on the ground. Short of nukes, that's what it takes. Give them to the Army and USMC.
Posted by OldSpook 2013-09-24 00:34||   2013-09-24 00:34|| Front Page Top

#3 This was done once before, moved to the USAF reserve and then when tried to move to the Army ( Army wanted them to augment helos for CAS) the flyboys suddenly brought them back to the front lines. Great aircraft, but not sexy. but then again, if you gotta wear a hankie around your neck to get the girls.....
Posted by USN, Ret. 2013-09-24 00:56||   2013-09-24 00:56|| Front Page Top

#4 They have a mighty fine Service record.
Posted by newc 2013-09-24 01:11||   2013-09-24 01:11|| Front Page Top

#5 Somebody tell them close air support AND tank buster isn't a single mission. I don't want Overlook to be a fast mover! Friendly fire ain't friendly.
Posted by Skidmark 2013-09-24 01:25||   2013-09-24 01:25|| Front Page Top

#6 Watch the Taliban 'squirter' try to crawl away from the impact area.

Warthogs in Iraq and Afghanistan saved countless US and ISAF lives. I hate to see them go.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-24 01:52||   2013-09-24 01:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Had a "ANG retiree briefing" at Gowen Field (Boise, Idaho) a couple of weeks ago. They didn't sound upbeat about keeping the A-10. And if they were to go I don't know whether the Air National Guard will continue at Gowen unless they were to get F-35's (I wouldn't hold my breath on that one though it has been discussed).
Posted by tipover 2013-09-24 02:24||   2013-09-24 02:24|| Front Page Top

#8 Under the current regime, nothing will be too good for a Red State such as Idaho, and that is very likely just what you'll get.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-24 02:31||   2013-09-24 02:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Reclassify elements of the Air Force like the Russians as the 'Strategic Force' cut the rest out and hand back as the old Army Air Corps. The Fighter Mafia will have its hands full. Note that some in the Army won't be too happy either as the need and funding to design a helicopter to do what an A-10 does won't be in the budget anymore.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-09-24 08:33||   2013-09-24 08:33|| Front Page Top

#10 If the Army were smart it would design a UAV around the GAU-8 the same way the A-10 was built around it. But now you wouldn't need all the pilot protection in the A-10.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-09-24 09:45||   2013-09-24 09:45|| Front Page Top

#11 So we are going to use a plane worth hundreds of millions of dollars for strafing. Right?
Posted by gorb 2013-09-24 09:57||   2013-09-24 09:57|| Front Page Top

#12 But now you wouldn't need all the pilot protection in the A-10.

Yeah right let's just have an unprotected multidollar plane the enemy can bring down with a bean shooter.
Posted by JFM 2013-09-24 10:25||   2013-09-24 10:25|| Front Page Top

#13 A CAS low level gun run just in front of friendlies is not where I would want a UAV. That control lag could literally be a "killer". Of friendly troops.
Posted by tipover 2013-09-24 11:15||   2013-09-24 11:15|| Front Page Top

#14 I'll bet the Marines would take them.
Posted by tu3031 2013-09-24 11:21||   2013-09-24 11:21|| Front Page Top

#15 I have a suspicion that this is more posturing for sequestration.

"If you don't give me money for global warning studies, I'll retire the A-10!"

In the 80's there used to be a liberal bumber sticker that said:
"wouldn't it be nice if schools had lots of money and the pentagon had to hold a bake sale to pay for its submarines?"

What we are seeing is this bumper sticker turned into policy.
Posted by Frozen Al 2013-09-24 11:49||   2013-09-24 11:49|| Front Page Top

#16 Tu101. I doubt Marines ever take the Warthog. Marine aircraft requirements include being capable of carrier operation.
Posted by JFM 2013-09-24 12:06||   2013-09-24 12:06|| Front Page Top

#17 What we are seeing is this bumper sticker turned into policy.

Except the schools aren't getting lots of money - that is getting diverted to the same ole DNC cronies. (Unions, Activists, Abortion mills, etc...)
Posted by CrazyFool 2013-09-24 12:07||   2013-09-24 12:07|| Front Page Top

#18 Except the schools aren't getting lots of money - that is getting diverted to the same ole DNC cronies. (Unions, Activists, Abortion mills, etc...)

Question: Now that the teAchers are giving up their unions where permitted, will they no longer be a favoured constituency?
Posted by trailing wife 2013-09-24 20:53||   2013-09-24 20:53|| Front Page Top

#19 tw,only the ones who stay on the plantation in the union
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-09-24 22:08||   2013-09-24 22:08|| Front Page Top

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