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2005-09-28 Home Front: Tech

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Posted by Steve 2005-09-28 09:47|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 As a good friend, a retired Navy captain says, the Navy will do whatever it takes to get money....

Posted by RWV 2005-09-28 10:05|| 2005-09-28 10:05|| Front Page Top

#2 My dad was a Seabee, circa 1942 - 45.

His favorite saying was "The Marines marched into Tokyo on the roads the Seabees built."

The only story I could get out of him on the topic of WWII was re-building a runway on some island (Tinian I think) before the Marines finished taking the other end of it.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2005-09-28 10:31|| 2005-09-28 10:31|| Front Page Top

#3 It's articles like this, that truly make me doubt Strategy Page's bona fides.

The Navy's MAA force has about as much light infantry capability as the Army has experience with carrier aviation. Periodically training with M-16s does not light infantry make.

The Navy foolishly allowed the riverine mission to escape to the Army and is now playing catch up trying to make itself relevant in the GWOT.

Posted by Dreadnought 2005-09-28 10:46|| 2005-09-28 10:46|| Front Page Top

#4 If we had had naval infantry in WWII we could have taken Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima.

Posted by Matt 2005-09-28 12:27|| 2005-09-28 12:27|| Front Page Top

#5 I thought the naval infantry branch went by the name "Marines."

Posted by Mike 2005-09-28 12:38|| 2005-09-28 12:38|| Front Page Top

#6 This seems a page from WWII Japanese ship based SNLFs. where in some islands a couple of ships will draw some mens to take a remote island. Or make some temporary land operation.

Posted by Hupomoque Spoluter7949 2005-09-28 13:16|| 2005-09-28 13:16|| Front Page Top

#7 John Garfield used to do this in all those submarine movies.

Posted by tu3031 2005-09-28 13:30|| 2005-09-28 13:30|| Front Page Top

#8 #5: I thought the naval infantry branch went by the name "Marines."
Damn, beat me to it.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2005-09-28 13:58|| 2005-09-28 13:58|| Front Page Top

#9 This opens big logic doors for an integral USAF Armourmed Cavalry Regiment.

WSC: RAF Regiment? Pansies.

Posted by Shipman 2005-09-28 18:58|| 2005-09-28 18:58|| Front Page Top

#10 The Marines have long been part of the Department of the Navy - the Men's Department ! Come on - MAA's in hand to hand ? The only ones I've seen where overweight CPOs on shore patrol with 1930's Chicago PD billy clubs. The SeaBees kick ass and are to a man/woman some of the Navy's best - with a torque wrench and a cutting torch. I don't think their strong suit is light infantry.

Posted by BangkokBilly 2005-09-28 19:07|| 2005-09-28 19:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Hospital Corpsmen serving with the Marine Corps â âGreenâ in Navy parlance â receive infantry training for defensive combat.

Defensive combat?? - No, the way I remember it was that we were trained for offensive combat. My instructor said words to the effect - "When all the officers are dead, all the NCO's are dead, the enemy has you surrounded and you are out of ammunition, the senior PFC alive shall order "fix bayonets and charge".

He meant it.

Posted by Doc8404 2005-09-28 19:40|| 2005-09-28 19:40|| Front Page Top

#12 I thought the naval infantry branch went by the name "Marines."

See this Strategypage article.

The Marines got so large due to World War II that it was no longer an adjunct to the Navy, but became a separate entity.

The Navy for its part, stopped using Marines for ship and base security (going to both DoD and civilian security contractors). Sailors also used to be trained in some infantry methods for boarding parties, landing parties, and temporary security detachments. That stopped in the '60s and early '70s.

One can thank the 'blue-water' and aviation factions for the decline in the Navy's riverine and littoral warfare assets and experience.

Posted by Pappy 2005-09-28 22:53|| 2005-09-28 22:53|| Front Page Top

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