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2008-09-17 India-Pakistan

'Funds for F-16s to Pakistan is a tough sell'

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Posted by Fred 2008-09-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10326 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1 Nothin Pakland, you Get Nothing exceptin a bullet in the head.

Posted by Red Dawg ">Red Dawg 2008-09-17 01:42|| 2008-09-17 01:42|| Front Page Top

#2 The Bush administration expects an uphill battle in Congress for permission to use counterterrorism funds to upgrade Pakistan's F-16 fighters

George and his Girl Clueless.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-09-17 04:16|| 2008-09-17 04:16|| Front Page Top

#3 The F-16 upgrade was badly needed, he said, and would give Pakistan a more effective counterterrorism tool

What kind of bullshit is this? They're just stealing money from a good program in order to put it in the pockets of defense contractors. Wonderful, now we have fewer funds to fight terrorism. Thanks, zoomies!@

Posted by gromky 2008-09-17 04:28|| 2008-09-17 04:28|| Front Page Top

#4 I was told that helicopters are much better than F16s for counterinsurgency, unless there is a good reason (like high altitude in some zones of the Taliban territory) why is Pakistan getting such fine fighters?

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-09-17 05:17|| 2008-09-17 05:17|| Front Page Top

#5 Why not throw in a few nuclear weapons while they are at it. You never know, they might have loaned what they have to their friends, Al Qaeda. Can't have India thinking they are not still big dicks, and besides a new round of jizya must be about due.

Posted by tipper 2008-09-17 07:09|| 2008-09-17 07:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I am all for cutting off all aid to Pakistan. All of it, military, USAID, any other funding they are gettnig for ANY reason. It is insanity to arm and fund an enemy state, which is what I now believe Pakistan has become.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2008-09-17 07:11|| 2008-09-17 07:11|| Front Page Top

#7 What kind of bullshit is this?

The kind that keeps the supply lines to Afghanistan open. Until we get out of Afghanistan, we are going to pay whatever ~~tribute~~ tolls Pakistan demands for use of its lines of communication. Grin and bear it.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-17 07:51|| 2008-09-17 07:51|| Front Page Top

#8 What are these assholes going to do when a SEAL team gets a 500# JDAM dropped on them by one of these jets?

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-09-17 09:34|| 2008-09-17 09:34|| Front Page Top

#9 I'm afraid NS is right. However, if Pakland starts firing on our guys when we go after terrorists on a regular basis, expect this deal to go south. If Pakland starts falling apart, expect seizure of a supply corridor by the US.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-17 09:35|| 2008-09-17 09:35|| Front Page Top

#10 If Pakland starts falling apart, expect seizure of a supply corridor by the US.

Which means tying up a likely increasing amount of assets that could be more productive elsewhere.

Posted by Pappy 2008-09-17 11:28|| 2008-09-17 11:28|| Front Page Top

#11 We're not cutting off aid to the Paks so long as our principal supply line to Afghanistan runs through the Khyber Pass. Think, people.

Posted by Steve White 2008-09-17 11:35|| 2008-09-17 11:35|| Front Page Top

#12 Not unless we want to occupy that supply route. Its a hell of a big step. But its also a cut right through the middle of the bad guys areas, so on the bright side, the supplies only need to go part way.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-17 13:24|| 2008-09-17 13:24|| Front Page Top

#13 I'll bet the war games on this are fun. It's hard to see us doing that without getting manpower assistance from, say, India. It's hard to see that happening without this devolving into a religious war with India caught in a two front war. At least they'd have the internal lines of communication. But it would still not be fun.

Obama would be stupid enough to get us into something like that. I prefer legallizing drugs, declaring victory in A-stan, and withdrawing. No matter what, it won't be pretty.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-17 14:17|| 2008-09-17 14:17|| Front Page Top

#14 Trying to occupy the supply route to the ports would mean a war we are in no way prepared to fight.

Posted by .5MT 2008-09-17 14:38|| 2008-09-17 14:38|| Front Page Top

#15 Basically, we would have to occupy 1/3 of Pakistan. Even if we tried to use India as a port supply route, no road runs through the mountains to Afghanistan that we could use. We would have to take the Northern portion of Pakland to make it work.
Basically, there are no real good options unless we want to move the troops from Iraq to Pakistan and engage in another 10 years of nation building.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-17 15:38|| 2008-09-17 15:38|| Front Page Top

#16 NAtion building? Why? Afgha,s have redeeming qualities but I fail to find any in Pakistanis.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-09-17 15:57|| 2008-09-17 15:57|| Front Page Top

#17 There are some JFM, but they don't sample.

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