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2006-09-12 Down Under
Howard Calls on Muslims to Accept Israel’s Right to Exist
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Posted by Fred 2006-09-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Muslims would rather give up jihad and the death penalty for insulting Mo than recognize Israel...
Posted by Ulelet Uniting8249 2006-09-12 00:13||   2006-09-12 00:13|| Front Page Top

#2 You know, for each country that refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist, or denies it like Iran, should cease to exist. Erase them from maps, recall any diplomats, kick out their diplomats, ensure they get no money and one hopes, erase them from reality. After all, turnabout is fair play right?
Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2006-09-12 00:39||   2006-09-12 00:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Any land occupied by Muslims is dar-Islam. Once they have it, no Muslim can recognize any other sovereignty. Hence the claims on Israel, Kashmir-etc and Spain (Andalusia). Transient secular states like Egypt and Jordan might formally recognize Israel, but that can't last.
Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-09-12 01:27||   2006-09-12 01:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for the Cult to give up wallowing in hatred of Israel and Infidels.
Apocalyptic Muslim Jew-hatred
Posted by Duh! 2006-09-12 04:00||   2006-09-12 04:00|| Front Page Top

#5 ..he should be trying to promote cohesion,”
That's what he is doing dickhead. You're the one rejecting it.
Posted by Gladys 2006-09-12 05:38||   2006-09-12 05:38|| Front Page Top

#6 ...otherwise we'll decide Islam doesn't have a right to exist.
Posted by Bright Pebbles in Blairistan 2006-09-12 06:33||   2006-09-12 06:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Once they have it, no Muslim can recognize any other sovereignty. Hence the claims on Israel, Kashmir-etc and Spain (Andalusia).

And the Americas. And Australia. And Antarctica.

Not the Moon, though. Ain't nobody every set foot on the Moon, according to Islam.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-12 07:29|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-12 07:29|| Front Page Top

#8 Not the Moon, though. Ain't nobody every set foot on the Moon, according to Islam.

Yet when astronaut Armstrong was wrongly(and long) rumoured to have converted to i-slam just because of hearing the sound of Azzan while on the Moon, they were almost dancing in the streets. The canard was propagated by 'em for over a decade. You cannot underestimate their deep rooted hypocrisy and duplicitious nature - anything that sounds glorious and praises them is simply acceptable. But you absolutely may not criticize!
Posted by Duh! 2006-09-12 09:08||   2006-09-12 09:08|| Front Page Top

#9 True. Allan hates those who ask too many questions. Like these:

Does the Qur’an define the word "Allah"? No.
Was the name "Allah" revealed for the first time in the Qur’an? No
Does the Qur’an assume that its readers have already heard of "Allah"? Yes
Should we look into pre-Islamic Arabian history to see who "Allah" was before Muhammad? Yes.
According to Muslim tradition, was Muhammad born into a Christian family and tribe? No
Was he born into a Jewish family or tribe? No
What religion was his family and tribe? Pagans
What was the name of his pagan father? Abdullah (Abd + Allah)
Did Muhammad participate in the pagan ceremonies of Mecca? Yes
Did the Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes
Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes
Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes
Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes
What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah.
Was the title "al-ilah" (the god) used of the Moon-god? Yes
Was the word "Allah" derived from "al-ilah?" Yes
Was the pagan "Allah" a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.
Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.
Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes
Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.
At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.
Was the Kabah thus the "house of the Moon-god"? Yes.
Did the name "Allah" eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.
Did they call the Kabah the "house of Allah"? Yes
Did the pagans develop religious rites in connection with the worship of their gods? Yes.
Did the pagans practice the Pilgrimage, the Fast of Ramadan, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, snorting water in and out the nose, praying several times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.? Yes.
Did Muhammad command his followers to participate in these pagan ceremonies while the pagans were still in control of Mecca? Yes (Yusuf Ali, fn. 214, pg. 78).
Did Islam go on to adopt these pagan religious rites? Yes. (Yusuf Ali: fn. 223 pg. 80).
Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called "the daughters of Allah"? Yes.
Did the Qur’an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20.
Have those verses been "abrogated" out of the present Qur’an? Yes.
What were they called? "The Satanic Verses." Yes.
Was the crescent moon an ancient pagan symbol of the Moon-god throughout the ancient world? Yes.
Was it the religious symbol of the Moon-god in Arabia? Yes
Were stars also used as pagan symbols of the daughers of Allah? Yes
Did the Jews or the Christians of Arabia use the crescent moon with several stars next to it as symbols of their faith? No
Did Islam adopt the pagan crescent moon and stars as it religious symbol? Yes.
As Islam developed over the centuries, did it adopt pagan names, pagan ceremonies, pagan temples and pagan symbols? Yes
Is it possible that most Muslims do not know the pagan sources of the symbols and rites of their own religion? Yes.
Are they shocked to find out the true sources of their ceremonies and stories? Yes
Can Islam be the religion of Abraham if it is derived from paganism? No
What then is Islam? A modern version of one of the ancient fertility cults.
Is the "Allah" of the Qur’an, the Christian God of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No
Do the Jews say that the Muslim "Allah" is their God too? No
Then whose god is Allah? Paganism
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-09-12 09:17||   2006-09-12 09:17|| Front Page Top

#10 Darn Things. This list is always updateable.
Posted by Duh! 2006-09-12 09:23||   2006-09-12 09:23|| Front Page Top

#11 Wow, mcsegeek-You have the best posts!
Posted by Jules in the Hinterlands 2006-09-12 09:50||   2006-09-12 09:50|| Front Page Top

#12 He could have recieved about the same response by asking them to.... have a ham on rye with chips and a cold Castle.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-12 09:52||   2006-09-12 09:52|| Front Page Top

#13 You keep calling for that.

We will keep calling for the destruction of Islam.

We will see who gets their call answered first.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2006-09-12 10:03||   2006-09-12 10:03|| Front Page Top

#14 We will see who gets their call answered first.

Darth, why do I suddenly have a vision of Lily Tomlin as the operator? "one ringy dingy. two ringy dingy...."
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-09-12 10:08||   2006-09-12 10:08|| Front Page Top

#15 Islam IS paganism. And a very dangerious, intolerant, violent form of paganism.

Isn't it interesting that the Muslims cannot take one iota of criticism? Not one.
Posted by ex-lib 2006-09-12 12:14||   2006-09-12 12:14|| Front Page Top

#16 Oh, and Byzantine Orthodoxy holds that Mohammed was excommunicated and forced to leave an Orthodox monastery because of his evil views and anti-Christian behavior. That's when he went on his killing/conversion spree, and invented (i.e. co-opted) Islam from paganism and set up a cult to himself. That's also when he indulged his pedophilic bent.
Posted by ex-lib 2006-09-12 12:18||   2006-09-12 12:18|| Front Page Top

#17 I certainly like the way Mr. Howard keeps prodding these shitbags. Telling them straight out...conform to the Australian culture or get the f**k out. Mcsegeek1, great post. These moonbats are truly the followers of a camp follower. A camel f**king, water pipe smoker of camel droppings, bedoin thug. Just desert rats. Stealing, back stabbing scum. Still the same today.
Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-09-12 12:50||   2006-09-12 12:50|| Front Page Top

#18 I've news for you Mr Howard---they don't accept the right of Australia to exist.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-09-12 14:02||   2006-09-12 14:02|| Front Page Top

#19 Besoeker, surely that would be a Fosters, or do they have Castle in Oz??

Back to food and drink again (heh): perhaps the option for the fools would be wart-hog boerewors/biltong and six *Castles/Lions,
or they're out of here/everywherehere, (see Brit Islamic threat of today, 2 million pissed off mossies, that in my book is one in three here. Tool up, guys).

They pay their own tickets, take the whole family/tribe, one way, no return, back to uganda, south africa, tanzania, zimbabwe, pakistan or where-ever tf they came from, and they're not invited to the feast of freedom again.

Like, "Go get a halal-burger in mecca that your Brother jumped/enjoyed the night with last night,
just after the candle went out in his cave. Enjoy".

The moon god = taqiya = : bullshit.

*Castles/Lions, refreshing Southern African fishing beverages, usually cooled in the shallows, or trailed over the back of the boat.
Posted by rhodesiafever">rhodesiafever  2006-09-12 16:42||   2006-09-12 16:42|| Front Page Top

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