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2009-09-11

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Posted by Fred 2009-09-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 There is still hope Fred. As a youth, Gaius was also sent to live with his grandmother.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-09-11 06:17|| 2009-09-11 06:17|| Front Page Top

#2 We get the reference to Caligula, Besoeker -- and to the fact that he was assasinated within 4 years of becoming the emperor of Rome.

Do. Not. Go. There.

Not here at the Burg.

You've been warned about this, as have others. Last warning.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-11 07:27|| 2009-09-11 07:27|| Front Page Top

#3 We don't want Obama assassinated. He would be another JFK and put on a pedestal and his corrupt and destructive policies could never be questioned again. He would be the left's rallying call.

We want him humiliated, broken and proven to be worse than Carter. We want him leaving the White House with his tail between his legs. We want want his theories to be proven to be naive and dangerous. We want him rendered politically null and void.

I can only hope that the CIA and the military keep the terrorists too damaged to mount any threat in the next 3 1/2 years. Bambi keeping the strikes up in Pakistan helps.

Eight years ago 3000 Americans died because of our leader's and our nativity about the ruthlessness of the world. Most of us learned our lesson. Some did not. Those that didn't are in power now and I pray that the lesson isn't reapplied.

Posted by DarthVader 2009-09-11 08:02|| 2009-09-11 08:02|| Front Page Top

#4 "We want him humiliated, broken and proven to be worse than Carter. We want him leaving the White House with his tail between his legs. We want want his theories to be proven to be naive and dangerous. We want him rendered politically null and void..."

I want him to be a laughing-stock - I want to hear people giggling whenever his name is mentioned - or any lines from his speeches or his memoirs quoted. And I want that to go on for a long, long, long time, to the very end of his natural days.

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2009-09-11 08:48|| http://www.celiahayes.com]">[http://www.celiahayes.com] 2009-09-11 08:48|| Front Page Top

#5 Well said Fred...That grim day had a positive outcome...you launched the 'Burg!

Deepest Regards from Kabul to you and your Staff!

Posted by Janos Hunyadi 2009-09-11 09:32|| 2009-09-11 09:32|| Front Page Top

#6 [funky skunk has been pooplisted.]

Posted by funky skunk 2009-09-11 10:05|| 2009-09-11 10:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Remember this?

Posted by badanov 2009-09-11 10:26|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2009-09-11 10:26|| Front Page Top

#8 I hope Obama has a successful presidency.

As I hoped that George W Bush would have a successful presidency.

As I hoped the Bill Clinton would have a successful presidency.

As I hope George Herbert Walker Bush and Ronald Reagan would have successful presidencies.

I want safe,strong,prosperous, just and sustainable United States more than I want the success of any political party.

I do not see that the benefits of a "bad" party failing are ever close to the costs of harm to the republic from a failed presidency.

I would hope, that while we disagree about the benefits of particular policies, we can all agree on that.

As for why we have had no further attacks, I suggest a piece on Slate today outlining ten very different possibilities, from 9/11 being dumb luck, to AQ and other radical islamists refocusing on the "near enemy" to the notion that AQ is waiting till they can do something bigger (with WMD) to the notion that we blew them away in October/November 2001, to Iraqi flypaper, to our loyal American Muslim community helping, etc, etc. I think there is SOME truth to all of those.

We SHOULD be debating health care, Jocko, whatever. After all, isnt the functioning of our democracy, and of our free and sometimes trivial culture, exactly what the Salifist-Jihadists were trying to destroy?

I would quibble with considering all our sacrifices in terms only of liberty losses (which I agree, have been very limited) Our sacrifices include the economic expenditures on two wars AND on homeland security (even if we have tried to avoid paying those costs). The biggest sacrifices have been borne by the men and women of our armed forces - killed, wounded, handicapped, or just deployed in horrible conditions for long times away from their families. The sacrifice has been too concentrated on too few - that doesn't mean it has not been all too real.

Posted by liberal hawk 2009-09-11 11:06|| 2009-09-11 11:06|| Front Page Top

#9 "We've thwarted terrorist attacks around the world, many times very quietly. We haven't issued press releases on some of our most notable successes. If you only read the New York Times the only news you'd read would be the failures and the leaks. But the men and women who take security very seriously, and there are still many, have done their jobs."

Yes, and that includes everyone from the CIA, FBI, CTC, DHS down to local police. But lets also recall that it very much includes MI6 and MI5, the French and German and Dutch and Italian security services. And, yes, the Indonesian and Saudi and Egyptian and Algerian and Turkish and Bosnian security services as well.

Posted by liberal hawk 2009-09-11 11:08|| 2009-09-11 11:08|| Front Page Top

#10 Well said, as always. Thank you Fred, and the Rantburg community.

Posted by Mike 2009-09-11 11:11|| 2009-09-11 11:11|| Front Page Top

#11 My thoughts are with everyone past and present on this meaningful and thought provoking day, just as on 11th November.

I pray that lives lost are not lives wasted and eventually we can overcome the dark cloud that descended on 11th September 2001

Posted by Oscar 2009-09-11 11:15|| 2009-09-11 11:15|| Front Page Top

#12 May Providence watch over us all, so long as that man remains in the White House.

May providenec watch over us all. Period.

Posted by liberal hawk 2009-09-11 11:17|| 2009-09-11 11:17|| Front Page Top

#13 LH, we do NOT want a "successful" Obama presidency. It sets far too many policies in stone that are harmful to this nation. Obama must fail if our nation is to remain strong. We see the type of government Obama wants to foist on the United States, and it's the same dreary crap that is killing Europe.

What I want is a nation that turns back to its roots, that cuts the fraud, waste, and abuse of Congress to a trickle, that offers the opportunity for success without Government constantly looking over our shoulders. I want a government that recognizes and PROTECTS the rights of its citizens, both those enumerated in the Bill of Rights and those that exist, sometimes recognized, sometimes not, in common law. I DON'T want a nation where the Government runs one-third or more of the economy, not on sound economic principles, but upon the false belief that it's necessary to "establish stability". The only stability that exists in this world is the stability of the grave - everything else is constantly changing.

I certainly don't want a nation that is defanged, hobbled, and crippled by a legal culture that wants to force everyone to be "equal", not in opportunity, but in results. That's the world of Barrack Hussein Obama, and it's a disaster for everyone. The events of 9/11 show us there's a definite external threat, based upon the most extreme interpretations of Islam. Barrack Obama and his cohorts are an equally dangerous internal threat. Wishing them success means wishing the destruction of our individual liberty. I think you need to rethink your desires for a "successful" Obama presidency. HIS success is not in our best interest as a nation.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2009-09-11 11:57|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2009-09-11 11:57|| Front Page Top

#14 We could redefine success to mean that he kept us safe abroad and at home, and otherwise did not achieve any of his objectives... It is starting to look like President Obama may have run out of steam on the domestic side -- the tea partiers have caught everyone's attention, no matter how much the interested parties are fussing, but those charged with keeping us safe keep beavering away at the task, as do those liberal hawk listed above in other countries.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-09-11 12:14|| 2009-09-11 12:14|| Front Page Top

#15 -- I still switch on my TV every morning in the hope that something like 9/11 has not just occurred again.
--- I have gotten a whole lot better at scanning the internet for relevant news whether or not the MSM sees fit to publish it, many thanks to Rantburg.
---- I don't think average Americans are as comfortable as they were on 9/10 -- the economic downtown's pain is spreading and intensifying.
--- This is increasing dissatisfaction & distrust of our political authorities. Rep. Wilson's recent outburst during O's speech to Congress probably served as a valuable safety valve to relieve some of that pressure.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2009-09-11 13:11|| 2009-09-11 13:11|| Front Page Top

#16 They hate us. No amount of apologist foreign policy will change that.

They have hated us for almost 900 years. They hated us before the Vienna Woods, they hated us before we sack Jerusalem.

They hated us before they saddled their first camel and sacked their first village on the Arabian peninsula.

We are infidels and apostates. We are to be either converted or massacred. Plain and simple, we are hated by their theology.

I turn on the television everyday expecting to find out that one of our cities has disappeared. And when that happens, BO will wring his hands, lecture us about how it is Bush's fault that they hate us and then he will declare martial law and take away everything resimbling a civil right.

I think he wants us to be hit again so he can turn us into a monarchy.

Posted by James Carville 2009-09-11 13:55|| 2009-09-11 13:55|| Front Page Top

#17 Not a monarchy, Mr. Carville. I think what Obama has in mind is more like the dictatorship of the proletariat.

I think DV's vision of Obama leaving the White House with his tail between his legs is the best possible outcome...that includes the hope that he doesn't demoralize and defang the military and other security services to the point where we do get hit again.

Many thanks to Fred and the other mods for maintaining Rantburg. I'm afraid there's a lot of darkness out there so it's nice to have a few lights on.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-09-11 14:53|| 2009-09-11 14:53|| Front Page Top

#18 Never forgive, never forget.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-09-11 17:55|| 2009-09-11 17:55|| Front Page Top

#19 Let's also take a moment to remember the lives lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by Snakes Uleatch3623 2009-09-11 20:11|| 2009-09-11 20:11|| Front Page Top

#20 [funky skunk has been pooplisted.]

I suspect you'll have company before the end of the year.

Posted by Pappy 2009-09-11 21:32|| 2009-09-11 21:32|| Front Page Top

#21 I can't comment!

I think all actions since 9/11 have been done ridiculously kid gloves.

Posted by 3dc 2009-09-11 22:27|| 2009-09-11 22:27|| Front Page Top

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