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2007-08-22 Iraq

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2007-08-22 04:48|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
File under: Mahdi Army

#1 Sadr needs to take "credit" for a .50 caliber round in his turban.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-22 06:15|| 2007-08-22 06:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Well, they won't take credit for our redeployment.

I deserve all the credit for that.

Posted by Harry Reid 2007-08-22 06:34|| 2007-08-22 06:34|| Front Page Top

#3 And the faster we withdraw, Harry, the more items we can contribute to their looting spree and victory party.

Posted by Nancy Pelosi 2007-08-22 06:35|| 2007-08-22 06:35|| Front Page Top

#4 This waste of oxygen was in our gunsights in Najaf. The shot not taken has haunted us ever since.

Posted by doc 2007-08-22 07:15|| 2007-08-22 07:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Hummm.. I wonder how Kuwait is feeling right about now?

IIRC it's mostly Sunni, and there's fat ole agressive Iran packed full of Assatollahs and missles and Quds [cuspidors] Forces.

Not to mention Tater and his Tots the Badr Boys just up North of them in I-raq.

Course Kuwait has us, the USA and that pre-positioned stuff which we're presently using [used up more likely] and our forward bases but maybe Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are gonna cut and run and pull us all back to Okinawa like Sen. Murtha wants?

Or hey maybe well do like the demoC*raps did in RVN in 1973-1975, bug out to the US of A.

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-08-22 07:22|| 2007-08-22 07:22|| Front Page Top

#6 Naw, we're gonna win this one baby, by the grace of God interceding in our affairs and pinching our politicians heads......HARD!

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-08-22 07:26|| 2007-08-22 07:26|| Front Page Top

#7 #4 Like there wouldn't be another one in his place?

Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-22 12:09|| 2007-08-22 12:09|| Front Page Top

#8 Like there wouldn't be another one in his place?

Come on, gg. You live in the Middle East, if not Israel, right?

What Wretchard says about the Palestinian leadership is eqally applicable in all high context Islamic societies:

The Israeli strike against the terrorist top tier exploits the weakness inherent in terrorist organizations which are unstable alliances based on a delicate balance of internal intimidation. None of them, the Palestinian Authority included, are either transparent or accountable. They are exceptionally vulnerable to changes in their leadership. They can stand the loss of any number of teenage fighters or youthful suicide bombers without much damage but are rocked -- as Yassin's death illustrates -- by death at the top.

These maggots make themselves irreplacable, it's how they stay in power. This is why so often the only way to remove them is by force. They wouldn't have it any other way. They create and flourish in a society that is cowed and religiously bullied (in every meaning of the phrase).

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-22 12:22|| 2007-08-22 12:22|| Front Page Top

#9 Why does that piece of shit continue to draw oxygen? Why (at the least) hasn't the acting government arrested him? Why does anyone pretend that anything even remotelyr resembling "peace" can be had while simultaneously allowing an armed resistance to exist within the center of the country with no consequences to those that are the public face of the resistance? Who the fuck do they think they're kidding?

It makes me absolutely sick that we were given an 8 year run at the driver's seat and did so little with it. What is the point of power if one is unwilling to use it?

Posted by Crusader 2007-08-22 13:05|| 2007-08-22 13:05|| Front Page Top

#10 What is the point of power if one is unwilling to use it?

It's for posturing and moral preening that is of little consequence in genuinely important affairs but of great significance to those who value style over substance.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-22 13:25|| 2007-08-22 13:25|| Front Page Top

#11 It's a good thing we didn't 86 this piece of shiat.

/sarc

Posted by Mike N. 2007-08-22 13:26|| 2007-08-22 13:26|| Front Page Top

#12
#8. Come on Zenster, IDF killed 500% of Hamas leadership. US Military had (approx) the same success with Al Qaeda Iraq. Its like stopping baseball in USA by killing the top league players.

You live in the Middle East, if not Israel, right?
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Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-22 16:50|| 2007-08-22 16:50|| Front Page Top

#13 "Why does that piece of shit continue to draw oxygen? Why (at the least) hasn't the acting government arrested him? . . . "

All bets are hedged.

There are ramifications from endless public policy debate over whether we stay to win or declare all Iraqis hopeless squabblers, ourselves losers, and go home. So bets will remain, to some degree hedged.

Posted by Hank 2007-08-22 17:11|| 2007-08-22 17:11|| Front Page Top

#14 ...or declare all Iraqis hopeless squabblers...

Islam breeds nothing BUT "hopeless squabblers". There is no such thing as a open, fair, and participative society within any territory dominated by Islam. I cannot fathom why we allowed them to craft a constitution that is openly linked to Islam, nor erect a political system that recognizes religious factions rather than political ideologies.

Posted by Crusader 2007-08-22 17:57|| 2007-08-22 17:57|| Front Page Top

#15 Remember the final scenes of Lawrence of Arabia when the Arabs argued over the Power Company and the Water Works in Demascus.

As Lawrence said, "Arabs, silly people!"

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2007-08-22 18:04|| 2007-08-22 18:04|| Front Page Top

#16 Well what are we waiting for then?

Posted by Hank 2007-08-22 18:13|| 2007-08-22 18:13|| Front Page Top

#17 gg, obviously I have confused you with someone else whose 'nym sounds similar.

Come on Zenster, IDF killed 500% of Hamas leadership. US Military had (approx) the same success with Al Qaeda Iraq. Its like stopping baseball in USA by killing the top league players.

A cute analogy to be sure, but let's face it, attendance at the games would drop if all players in the majors were taken out of the game. Trying to replace them with peanut league strings wouldn't create the same level of play. So it is with Islam's clerical and terrorist elite. We've mostly been taking out cannon fodder as compared to the big shots. That ratio needs to invert before reasonable progress will be obtained.

There is no such thing as a open, fair, and participative society within any territory dominated by Islam. I cannot fathom why we allowed them to craft a constitution that is openly linked to Islam, nor erect a political system that recognizes religious factions rather than political ideologies.

Absolutely spot on, Crusader. Permitting Afghanistan and Iraq to install shari'a based constitutions was a singular folly upon our part. As a military occupier, such a thing should simply have been forbidden with all proponents of such jailed or executed.

One could argue that such a measure might involve killing off a large portion of each respective society but it still remains that those same people will get even larger numbers killed by persisting with their jihadist activities. If we are going to be so idiotic as to pretend that we can save Islam from itself, then there's a huge number of people that need killing. Such pantywaist strategies as persuasion and negotiation play negligible roles in such a plan.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-22 19:14|| 2007-08-22 19:14|| Front Page Top

#18 Well what are we waiting for then?

A decade or so from nowmost likely after the needless deaths of several million Americansthat question (or a variant of it), will ring in the ears of several successive generations.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-22 19:17|| 2007-08-22 19:17|| Front Page Top

#19 Last August, when British troops left their base in the southern town of Amara it was immediately looted by local citizens and Sadr's Mahdi Army militia held a small-scale victory parade.

Here's to hopin' that WE remember this event, and that some of our best and brightest snipers are on a "training exercise" in and around Basra when the Brits pull out.

Posted by BA 2007-08-22 20:20|| 2007-08-22 20:20|| Front Page Top

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