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2006-08-31 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Why Iran Produces Heavy Water: Drinking It Helps Fight Cancer and AIDS

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Posted by Cromogum Jomoter2698 2006-08-31 15:37|| || Front Page|| [11141 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Wonder if it cures "dwarfism"? Drop a couple of truckloads by the well and let the 12th Imam test it out.

Posted by tu3031 2006-08-31 21:27|| 2006-08-31 21:27|| Front Page Top

#2 I got warts. Heal me. Cast those demons from me. Oh, you say heavy water. Where can I get some?

These guys are so out of touch that they think everyone else is as dumb as they are and believe their bullshit.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-08-31 21:31|| 2006-08-31 21:31|| Front Page Top

#3 I would not drink it. It is not advised at all.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-08-31 21:53|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com] 2006-08-31 21:53|| Front Page Top

#4 I think the Iranians should drink the cool aid flavored heavy water then SPOD if it's not good for you--sounds like they have. What are the symptoms of heavy water ingestion? Trouble getting off the ground? Difficulty getting up from your seat? Dwarfism?

Posted by JohnQC 2006-08-31 22:00|| 2006-08-31 22:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Heavy water inhibits the activity of telomeres and interferes with the anaphase of mitosis.

It thus affects cells undergoing mitosis. It will prevent seeds from germinating. It will kill cancer cells (which are replicating quickly).

Ingestion is not wise. Replacing about 25% of your water with it will cause irreversible sterility.
Rats whose water was replaced with 75% D2O will die.

Posted by john 2006-08-31 22:05|| 2006-08-31 22:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Deuterium is not radioactive. Being heavier, reactions take longer than with H1/proton, so the living tissue selectivly have less H2 than is in water..

Posted by ed 2006-08-31 22:08|| 2006-08-31 22:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Interesting. What's the down side for us if Iranians ingest heavy water and it cause sterility?

Prostate cancer is treated with radiation--seed inplants or some form of external beam radiation or hormone therapy. Most of these treatments have a deleterious effect on sterility while treating cancer cells.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-08-31 22:10|| 2006-08-31 22:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Expanding in John, H2 being heavier and slower, inhibits biochemical reactions and is prefentially expelled. At such high concentrations mentioned by john, it would inhibit biochemical reactions (e.g. proton exchange) so much that it leads to death.

Posted by ed 2006-08-31 22:14|| 2006-08-31 22:14|| Front Page Top

#9 Heavy water is far too expensive and offers no advantages to normal chemo to be used for cancer patients.

A heavy water moderated and cooled research reactor is actually useful for medical purposes. It can be used to create medical radioistopes like Cobalt 60, or Technicium (used in tracer studies).

Of course, you can actually buy this stuff, instead of making it yourself. No nation would take the risks that Iran is taking (inviting sanctions and militray strikes) if the program was really peaceful. Thermal power plants are far easier and cheaper to build.
Very small reactors (<5MW) are also desirable if you are truly interested in medicine.

Going for a 40 MW reactor that you can later scale up (Israel did this with Dimona) has only one purpose -- bomb making

Posted by john 2006-08-31 22:24|| 2006-08-31 22:24|| Front Page Top

#10 ""There is no connection whatsoever between heavy water and plutonium."

I like that one.
's true they could easily buy all the medical eqipment they want.
Nobody's drinking any heavy water.

Posted by J. D. Lux 2006-08-31 23:40|| 2006-08-31 23:40|| Front Page Top

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