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2006-08-30 Home Front: Culture Wars
Governor calls teacher's theories crazy as UNH stands behind 9/11 prof
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Posted by Fred 2006-08-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Woodward is a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, an organization that maintains the Bush administration permitted the terrorist attacks to occur, and may even have planned them performs the role of "flypaper" for the lunatics that somehow managed to make it through the higher education system without getting caught.
Posted by gorb 2006-08-30 04:05||   2006-08-30 04:05|| Front Page Top

#2 The ability to distinguish between free speech and barking mad moonbattery looks like a growth industry. To say that everyone here at the 'Burg is much smarter than J. Bonnie Newman, the "dipshit in charge" at UNH, is obvious.

Let's commit her to a nice state institution and use her salary to allow Fred to retire - and fund future Rantapaloozas.
Posted by flyover 2006-08-30 04:13||   2006-08-30 04:13|| Front Page Top

#3 This sort of speech shouldn't be a problem. The real problem is that this person receives money extorted from Americans.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-08-30 05:29||   2006-08-30 05:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Don't forget that his students (and their parents) are paying for an education. Not to hear a tenured professor bray at the moon.
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-08-30 07:02||   2006-08-30 07:02|| Front Page Top

#5 So when is the university going to support 'academic freedom' and establish chairs to be filled by 'tenured professors' who advocate return to the monarchy and to slavery?
Posted by Sleting Ebbager4513 2006-08-30 09:08||   2006-08-30 09:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Administrators continue to raise the 'freedom of speech' argument to protect their moonbat profs. That misses the entire point. What about 'academic competence'? In state funded schools, the state has a right to demand that the teachers are competent.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-08-30 09:34||   2006-08-30 09:34|| Front Page Top

#7 Too bad Larry Summers wasn't president of UNH instead of Harvard. He might still have a job.
Oh, wait. That was the wrong kind of speech. Freedom of Speech don't cover that...
Academics are the biggest hypocrites in this country.
Posted by tu3031 2006-08-30 10:15||   2006-08-30 10:15|| Front Page Top

#8 "Administrators continue to raise the 'freedom of speech' argument to protect their moonbat profs. That misses the entire point. What about 'academic competence'? In state funded schools, the state has a right to demand that the teachers are competent."

Exactly! He is free to think and say whatever he wants. He is also free to suffer the consequences of speaking his mind out loud.

The Administrators, Trustees', Alumni, parents etc. etc. should be moving to set him and every other moonbat faculty member adrift. Tenured or not. This Academic Freedom and PC bull crap has got to go.

Spewing garbage in direct contradiction of known and verified fact, has nothing to do with Academic Freedom. Find this idiot a rubber room somewhere.

Posted by Texas Redneck 2006-08-30 10:22||   2006-08-30 10:22|| Front Page Top

#9 “Spewing garbage in direct contradiction of known and verified fact…”

With all due respect T.Redneck, a number of “facts” from the official “9/11 Commission Report” have been called into question, others refuted, and some proven to be false. With that said, “The Scholars for 9/11 Truth” proves itself to be an intellectually dishonest bunch every time they interject their Anti-NeoCon/Bush/Republican/Illumitaty/War/(fill in the blank) to bolster their unproven conclusions.
Posted by DepotGuy 2006-08-30 11:48||   2006-08-30 11:48|| Front Page Top

#10 "a number of “facts” from the official “9/11 Commission Report” have been called into question, others refuted, and some proven to be false. "

Aw, c'mon DepotGuy. Of course some facts are later proven to be innaccurate. Show me a government report where this is not the case. 'Called into question'? By whom, and for what reason? Lots of things get called into question, but are all questions and questioners credible? Hell, I could 'call into question' the fact that the earth is a spherical planet, insist it's flat, and have a huge following of nutjobs that agree with me (yes the flat earth society does exist), but we're talking about the basic facts of 9/11 in the sense that to believe or espouse otherwise is ludicrous. We are not talking about the insignificant details. And we're also not talking about 'intellectual dishonesty'. If we were talking about a debate over 'global warming', I'd agree that some are being intellectually dishonest in their conclusions. That's a far cry from espousing flat earth, we never went to the moon, Bush blew up the towers, etc.

Ludicrous:
1 : amusing or laughable through obvious absurdity, incongruity, exaggeration, or eccentricity.
2 : meriting derisive laughter or scorn as absurdly inept, false, or foolish.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-08-30 12:23||   2006-08-30 12:23|| Front Page Top

#11 James H. Fetzer, Distinguished McKnight University Professor Emeritus, University of Minnesota Duluth, Department of Philosophy,
University of Minnesota

Fetzer argues the hijacked planes could not have destroyed the World Trade Center.

Right. Leave it to a philosophy professor to catch a bunch of engineers lying about verifiable structural engineering facts.

Whilst I am but a mere civil engineer - as opposed to a registered professional structral engineer, I was not the least bit surprised when the towers "pancaked", and my initial impression of the cause was correct.

The intense heat softened the steel until it yielded (bent) and overstreesed some other structural memeber (thing) to failure (it broke). When the parts of the steel holding up the floor bent and broke, the concrete floor collaped on the floor below, causing it to crash down on the one below. Repeat to the lowest level.

There. Ya think a philosophy professor can understand that? Probably, but he won't believe it.

Posted by Bobby 2006-08-30 13:41||   2006-08-30 13:41|| Front Page Top

#12 rationality and being delusion-free are, in fact, bona fide job requirements.
Posted by Mark E. 2006-08-30 14:09||   2006-08-30 14:09|| Front Page Top

#13 "but we're talking about the basic facts of 9/11 in the sense that to believe or espouse otherwise is ludicrous".

mcsegeek1, I could be wrong but I don’t believe the “9/11 Report” is considered to be just another “government report”. Either way, if some people wish to believe all the “basic facts” regarding 9/11 have been established…great. But keep in mind some of those “facts” as well as a number of “conclusions and recommendations” are based on the testimony of people like Sandy Berger and Richard Clark. I don’t support the fantastic theories floating about but believe people are justified in questioning the “official” story line.
Posted by DepotGuy 2006-08-30 14:42||   2006-08-30 14:42|| Front Page Top

#14 Bobby: Leave it to a philosophy professor to catch a bunch of engineers lying about verifiable structural engineering facts.

I think Bobby might take the 'understated snark of the week' trophy away from Trailing Wife this week ....
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-08-30 14:43||   2006-08-30 14:43|| Front Page Top

#15 I second that nomination.
Posted by lotp 2006-08-30 14:49||   2006-08-30 14:49|| Front Page Top

#16 Third. And the motion carries.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-08-30 15:12||   2006-08-30 15:12|| Front Page Top

#17 my structural calculations are constantly criticized by sociology and philosophy experts. I hate it
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-08-30 19:20||   2006-08-30 19:20|| Front Page Top

#18 What about 'academic competence'?

The phrase is rapidly becoming an oxymoron. Or in Woodwrd's case, just a regular moron.
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-30 20:12||   2006-08-30 20:12|| Front Page Top

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