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2004-08-28 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-08-28 2:06:49 AM|| || Front Page|| [11124 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Well there you have it; Sadr's forces got a nice little trimming courtesy of the U.S. Armed Forces, and somehow, the mullah brain thinks it's a victory for him/defeat for us. The question is, does the Muslim at large actually buy this nonsense?

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-28 2:30:11 AM|| 2004-08-28 2:30:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 What, exactly, did they think was our objective in the engagement?

Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-28 2:45:11 AM|| 2004-08-28 2:45:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 SH, the enemy media have been telling them that our objective was to destroy or desecrate the mosque of ali. We have failed to do so, so we are defeated in their minds.
This is a classic strawman ploy, common in American fifth column media reporting during the Vietnam war and still current in Eurabian media.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-08-28 3:00:49 AM|| 2004-08-28 3:00:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Lets see...

Main-line Shia forced into the arms of the Government? CHeck.
Ayatollah asking for National Guard and National Police to protect the city and shrines? Check.
Army Decimated? Check.
Leadership captured stealing things from the Mosque? Check.
Mosque filled with excrement and beer cans? Check.
Charnel house of Taliban style executions? Check.
Movement exposed as a gang of thugs? Check.
Leader Exposed as a fraud? Check.

If thats defeat, then we need a few more and Iraq will be pacified.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-08-28 3:35:26 AM|| 2004-08-28 3:35:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Just wait until the next enormous batch of Iranian pilgrims visits the mosque to discover it is unharmed, despite every building around it being reduced to rubble. The US pulled the same "trick" in Germany in WWII, of leveling a town *except* for any old church, cathedral or historical edifice: even the damn Nuremburg stadium. To this day, Germans are still grateful to the US for this, and the older ones still thank Americans for it.

Posted by Anonymoose 2004-08-28 10:11:18 AM|| 2004-08-28 10:11:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 beer cans... in a Mosque? But, that's not possible: Muslims don't drink. I can't believe that a great Holy Man such as al-Sadr and his men could have been responsible.
(/sarcasm)

Posted by eLarson 2004-08-28 10:19:17 AM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2004-08-28 10:19:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 It was the AFP photographers who brought in the beer.

Posted by Shipman 2004-08-28 12:28:20 PM|| 2004-08-28 12:28:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 One cannot neglect the possibility that these remarks are meant purely for domestic consumption. To the extent that the religious authorities in Iran must rely on terrorizing their populace to remain in power, they may be worried that U.S. victories could inspire a homegrown overthrow of the Iranian regime. By painting the U.S. retreat as a victory for Iraq's hardliners, such attempted overthrows will be less likely.

Posted by Curt Simon 2004-08-28 2:10:29 PM|| 2004-08-28 2:10:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I saw a picture book of the damage done to Nurenburg while I was there in 97 (Germans have a fetish for pictures of WW2 leveled cities because Lubick was selling postcards showing their city on fire). It looks like we pretty much took out nearly everything along the flight path as we tried to whack the rail lines. The Cathedral, Castle, and Duras House were all pretty much spared (the main historical stuff) but I think it was more through luck since the city had pretty extensive damage all around and we weren't actually targetting the city.

Posted by Yank 2004-08-28 4:49:49 PM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-08-28 4:49:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Yep Yank, that 25 mile CEP had a lot to do with it too.

Posted by Shipman 2004-08-28 5:52:20 PM|| 2004-08-28 5:52:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 There guys might want to read up on an old Greek named King Pyrrhus of Epirus...

Posted by mojo 2004-08-28 8:09:18 PM|| 2004-08-28 8:09:18 PM|| Front Page Top

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