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2006-08-13 Britain

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Posted by ryuge 2006-08-13 02:38|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 *sniff*

I detect more carefully crafted WaPo apologia and partisan flogging of the current Donk meme that we are the problem -- by fighting back.

Enough. Fuck you, WaPo. I'm fed up with your "root causes" articles and your sympathy, no matter how nuanced. The equivalency BS makes me gag. "Unease"? Yeah? Really? Gee, I wonder if on 7/8 there was "unease" among Britons who had to ride the tube? Even if reported, you can bet it was carefully "balanced" by Muslim hypocrisy and taqiya.

Muslims are a cancer. They do not deserve the largess and tolerance they receive. They have no allegiance save Islam. They are a tumor that deserves no sympathy nor quarter in this war. They are, at best, a resource pool for the jihadis which responds to the truth with rage at everyone but the guilty: themselves. 5 years ago we wanted them to drain their own swamp. Nothing happened. Now - just get the fuck out.

5 years on and the drumbeat of bullshit continues.

Posted by flyover 2006-08-13 04:42|| 2006-08-13 04:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Hear Hear.. what flyover said.

..and 'the swamp' must be drained and then paved over.

Posted by RD 2006-08-13 04:53|| 2006-08-13 04:53|| Front Page Top

#3 I'd say 7/7 was a hint.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-08-13 06:01|| 2006-08-13 06:01|| Front Page Top

#4 In one of Europe's largest Muslim communities, young men face a lack of jobs, poor educational achievement and discrimination in a highly class-oriented culture.

OK. Let us accept this nonsense (for the time being).

Let us now consider the state of Bihar in India .. caste ridden, dirt poor, illiteracy, few jobs..

Conditions FAR worse than europe.

Let us look at young Santosh Kumar. He has far more excuses for "rage" than these British Pakis.
Did Santosh turn to suicide bombing?

From this week's businessweek:

Every April, some 230,000 Indian youths sharpen their pencils and sit for the intensely competitive entrance exam to the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) -- the seven prestigious schools that train India's top-notch engineers and entrepreneurs. After the grueling six-hour test, only 5,000 students are offered a place in the IITs. Most come from middle-class backgrounds and prepare for the exams through private coaching. But in the past few years, a small group of desperately poor, talented students have made it into the IITs, thanks to the Ramanujan School of Mathematics.

The school, named after a famous Indian mathematician, is even more intense than the IITs themselves. Located in Patna, the capital of Bihar, one of India's least developed states, the Ramanujan School trains just 30 students a year to take the IIT exam. Anand Kumar, 33, a local mathematician, and Abhayanand, 52, Patna's deputy director general of police and a lover of physics, founded the school in 2003 to help promising locals get ahead in the caste-based society.

They scoured Bihar's least privileged communities for 30 bright students to coach for the exam, providing free lessons and housing. They call their group the Super 30. "Intelligence is not birth-specific," says Abhayanand. In the first year, 16 of the group made it into the IITs. The next year, 22 made it. "This year," Kumar says confidently, "all 30 will get into the IITs."

Santosh Kumar, 19 (no relation to Anand Kumar), is one of this year's Super 30, and his story is typical of his classmates. He's from Dumari, a village in the Bihata district, about 22 miles from Patna. Nearly all the village's 3,000 residents scratch out meager livings as farmers. Santosh's sister and three brothers studied up to 10th grade but then returned to the fields. "Studying further required money, so that was that," he says.

Santosh wanted more. His school had no roof, no doors, and no teachers half the time, but he borrowed books and tutored two young students for 70 cents a month. He also sold vegetables the family cultivated in a nearby market town. "I didn't even know which subjects I was good at, and I'd certainly never heard of IIT. No one had," he says. Then an eighth-grade teacher noticed his mathematical talent and encouraged him to study further.

Santosh saw that "education was the only way out of poverty," he says. At first, he planned to study so he could become an officer in the Indian civil service. After high school, he enrolled in the Patna College of Commerce, and then he heard about the IITs and the Super 30. "I went straightaway to Anand Kumar and told him: 'I dream of IIT, but I have no money.' He gave me his test, and I came second in the class. [He] let me into his Super 30 -- free," Santosh recalls.

For seven months, Santosh studied every morning for four hours, then sat down for a three-hour test in math, physics, and chemistry, and after a break studied three more hours. From six to nine in the evening, he attended a class in the same subjects and prepared for the next day's test until 2 a.m. His work paid off last spring, when he won a coveted seat at the IIT in Kharagpur, near Calcutta. (He ranked 3,537 out of the 5,000 students chosen.) Santosh now aims to earn a doctorate in chemistry and become an inventor. His hero is Abdul Kalam, India's current President and father of the nation's missile program. Just as important, Santosh is on track to be the first person from Dumari to graduate from university, making him a hero in the eyes of his village.

Posted by john 2006-08-13 07:46|| 2006-08-13 07:46|| Front Page Top

#5 I think the Muslims ought to start worrying about British rage if this crap keeps up.

They can scream about how underprivileged they are, blah blah blah. Take a look at the Lions of Islam pulling this latest crap and see if it remotely fits this article's profile.

I'd be willing to bet that just like the evil group that plotted out 9/11, the ones who did 7/7 and this one were all middle class, educated, and able to move around in that society as equals. I really doubt any of them were busting their asses doing menial labor (hell, they probably had cleaning ladies, gardeners, etc. so they never would have to get their hands dirty). They've traveled outside of Britain at least once. They live a lifestyle unavailable to 98% of the people in their ancestral homelands. I'm almost certain that they sampled some of the decadent Western delights (chicks, alcohol, drugs) that would be strictly forbidden to them under a caliphate like the one they claim to support. Hypocrisy runs deep in them.

In other words, they were some of society's "winners". And this is how they choose to pay that society back.

Who should have "rage" now, WaPo?

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-08-13 08:20|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-08-13 08:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Swamp Blondie sez: "Hypocrisy runs deep in them"
100% true. It's the fibre of their creed founded on hate, greed, ignorance and delusion of grandeur. Not to mention, inescapable mutual/mullah incitement against others. In any muzzie majority country is found that ingrained resentment of more successful nons, so actually it makes little difference whether they are the minority or majority. They must crave to be dominant, one way or another. Otherwise they cause trouble.

Posted by Duh! 2006-08-13 08:31|| 2006-08-13 08:31|| Front Page Top

#7 When the news broke this week of the arrests in the alleged bomb plot, one of Hussain's two daughters, Afsheen, 15, asked him: "Why do they call them Muslim terrorists? Are we like that?"

Look how the moderate muslim Hussain lies.

What media called them "muslim terrorists" ?
In fact the media went out of its way not to link them to islam.

Hussain himself has the same sense of muslim victimhood.

Posted by john 2006-08-13 08:35|| 2006-08-13 08:35|| Front Page Top

#8 "The identity of Muslims in the U.K. is Muslim first and foremost and British second," Ranstorp said, echoing a recent Pew global survey of Muslim attitudes that found that 81 percent of British Muslims who responded agreed with that sentiment. Only Pakistan had a higher percentage of people who considered themselves Muslims first, the survey showed.

The identity is muslim first because they come from Pakistan.

To be Pakistani is to accept the two nation theory. That muslims are a separate nation, that islam is in danger and must be separated from the majority culture. That muslims cannot live in peace with those of other religions.

Pakistan is full of people who claim to be ashraf, descendents of the prophet, of arab blood, NOT of Indian subcontinental origin. They deny their own culture and history.

Islam in the Indian subcontinent is unique because it developed in an environment where muslims were not a majority. In the post-mughal era, there was the additional environment of loss of political power.

This is unique in the muslim world. And muslims in India developed an entire culture of how to deal with kaffirs and their pollution.

There is no assimilation here. The intent is quite opposite.

Combine that with pakistani two nation theory and you have a bunch of people who, settled in the UK, will not see themselves as part of the majority culture.

Posted by john 2006-08-13 08:44|| 2006-08-13 08:44|| Front Page Top

#9 The only rage of which Britons are capable is on display at football matches.

Posted by Perfesser 2006-08-13 09:19|| 2006-08-13 09:19|| Front Page Top

#10 one of Hussain's two daughters, Afsheen, 15, asked him: "Why do they call them Muslim terrorists? Are we like that?"

The women are excluded and kept clueless for the most part...reaching them is the way to transform Muslim society. No mother wants to sacrifice her son or give her daughters away to some sadistic moron.

Posted by Danielle 2006-08-13 09:25|| 2006-08-13 09:25|| Front Page Top

#11 The sick 'mothers' of Palistinian terrorists willingly give their son's and daughers (and children) up to be 'matyrs'. Sacrificing them to some sadistic moron (Allan).

I think you will find these elements on all societies.

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-08-13 09:42|| 2006-08-13 09:42|| Front Page Top

#12 Right, Danielle, but it will take too long.

"More than any other country in Europe, Britain is struggling to cope with a surge in recruits and supporters of radical Islamic networks . . ." Because? "Britain's long tradition of tolerance has made it an oasis for immigrants and political outcasts from around the world, with its large influx of Pakistanis and other Muslims leading to the nickname Londonistan." Then what happened? " . . . during the 1980s and 1990s, Britain became the refuge of choice for scores of Islamic radicals who had been expelled or exiled from their home countries for their inflammatory sermons and speeches."

Now what about the "poor us" thing? In one of Europe's largest Muslim communities, young men face a lack of jobs, poor educational achievement and discrimination in a highly class-oriented culture."

Look. They don't want to work anyway because they're lazy and elitist.

"Prime Minister Tony Blair is the most outspoken ally of President Bush, and their policies in Iraq and Afghanistan are seen by many Muslims as aimed at Islam." It's funny that THEY equate terrorism with Islam, even though we don't (technically).

Posted by ex-lib 2006-08-13 09:42|| 2006-08-13 09:42|| Front Page Top

#13 They print this trash -- complete with obligatory whitewash -- but lack the courage to discuss Londonistan.

Posted by JSU 2006-08-13 10:53|| 2006-08-13 10:53|| Front Page Top

#14 John, do you have a blog?
I find your comments on Pakistan to be the most insightful I've come across.
Can you give some links to the problem of Pakistanis in the UK?

Posted by tipper 2006-08-13 14:36|| 2006-08-13 14:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Young Muslim Rage Takes Root in Britain

It must be really, really irritating when you are told repeatedly, NOT TO FOUL THE NEST. When Britons get tired of being sh!t upon, woe be it for the Muslims and their smooth polished stones.

The inability to integrate is a hallmark of Islam in general. Polyglot socities depend upon integration in order to ameliorate cultural differences. It should come as no surprise to Islam that its inability to coexist will eventually win it a one-way ticket ~~to hell~~ back home.

Posted by Zenster 2006-08-13 17:22|| 2006-08-13 17:22|| Front Page Top

#16 A link is not available, but I read a Milli Gazette article on the problems caused by requirement imposed on Indian Muslims student to learn the worthless language of Arabic, and study the Koran in public schools. (Indian Muslims have constitutional rights in cultural affairs) The needs of the parasitic Mullah class are placed over learning requirements that would integrate the Muslim into the modern world. Thus, brainwashed students learn about the military exploits of their cult founder and his robbery gang, while Hindus tackle advanced Calculus, etc. The Koran is a mind-crippler.

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-13 17:30|| 2006-08-13 17:30|| Front Page Top

#17 There are two additional problems.

Following the failure of the Indian sepoy mutiny and the exile of the Mughal Indian Emperor, muslims were encouraged to retreat from public education - this was when the deoband madrassah was formed.

Of those muslims who did get educated, the middle classes, the businesssmen, the army officers, many migrated to Pakistan at partition.

The local postive role models are gone.

Posted by john 2006-08-13 17:49|| 2006-08-13 17:49|| Front Page Top

#18 It might be wise for the Islamofascists to watch their step Stateside, too. Yesterday my dear, little mother-in-law came back from her morning walk, fuming. She and her friend were pushed off the sidewalk by a pair of ill-bred Saudi-style Moving Black Objects... likely Yemeni, as she lives in Lackawanna, NY (famed as home of the Lackawanna Six). M-i-L ran with a roughish crowd in her youth, another branch of the family are second generation in the city police, and I wouldn't bet on a Moving Black Object against her.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-08-13 22:04|| 2006-08-13 22:04|| Front Page Top

#19 Checking in this evening at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson I saw a group of TSA employees chatting. One was a black female in full TSA uniform..... except for a black muzzie head scarf. Very impressive, very, very impressive.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-13 22:13|| 2006-08-13 22:13|| Front Page Top

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