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2005-08-08 Iraq-Jordan

Eleven foreign fighters killed, hundreds arrested

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Posted by Fred 2005-08-08 11:58|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 11 killed, 805 arrested is good. 805 killed, 11 arrested is better.

Posted by BH 2005-08-08 12:12|| 2005-08-08 12:12|| Front Page Top

#2 816 less violent nutters would do nicely so long as nobody touches the damn book of allan. Ok. Don't touch the stinkin book.

Posted by AbuRatcatcherToTheStars 2005-08-08 13:01|| 2005-08-08 13:01|| Front Page Top

#3 906 killed is best.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-08-08 13:06|| 2005-08-08 13:06|| Front Page Top

#4 why have we never heard what happens to terrorists who are captured?Do they go on trial in Iraq?If so what are the outcomes of these trials?It seems to me that being a terrorist for an Iraqi is a nearly no-lose proposition.You walk over to three or four MNF soldiers.pepper them with bullets,put up your hands and get free lodging.Why are there no public executions of captured,proven killers?Until there is a highly visible price paid for shooting or blowing up their ememies,the marginal terrorists don t have a lot to lose when caught. As distasteful as it seems to all of us,me included,a non-uniformed killer is not a prisoner of war ,he is a murdering thug,and deserves prompt public justice.

Posted by john e morrissey">john e morrissey 2005-08-08 13:21|| 2005-08-08 13:21|| Front Page Top

#5 need to install Saudi fire protection systems in the Iraqi jails

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-08-08 13:28|| 2005-08-08 13:28|| Front Page Top

#6 From NYT:

Two days ago, about 1,000 American and Iraqi soldiers started an offensive to root out insurgents in the area, but with meager results. As with previous offensives in the area, the Marines have met little resistance, with the guerrillas mostly fading into the landscape. On Saturday, the Marines reported few gains, and on Sunday sent out no report at all.

First Rantburg makes me question my Democratic party upbringing, now it points out flawed coverage by my favorite paper. It has been a painful but eye opening experience. I hope this site is having similar effects on people like me everywhere. I recently caught myself checking this site first, it was always NYT first. A subtle shift, but I am hooked now.

Posted by NYer4wot 2005-08-08 13:38|| 2005-08-08 13:38|| Front Page Top

#7 NYer4wot,

Welcome. Spread the word. Have you been watching the Air Scamerica coverage in the Grey Lady? Didn't think so. Another story that never happened from the paper of Walter Duranty.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-08-08 13:48|| 2005-08-08 13:48|| Front Page Top

#8 A good way to picture the raw numbers is to compare them with an army unit. 30 enemy out of action is a platoon. 100 is a company. 750 is a battallion. 5000 is a brigade. Using this perspective, our divisions in Iraq have literally annihilated at least two enemy divisions from around the world, just in Iraq, and with tiny losses. Two to three or more brigades of enemy have been lost in Afghanistan. Another few brigades elsewhere. All told, we have wiped out a corps of enemy fighters. How few modern nations of the world could suffer the loss of a corps and still have a viable army? For example, the US Army has (I believe) four field Corps. Very large, comparable only to the Russians and the Chinese. Most of the nations of the world would be utterly defeated with such losses. This is a good indicator of how little the Islamists have left.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-08-08 14:46|| 2005-08-08 14:46|| Front Page Top

#9 This is a good indicator of how little the Islamists have left.

Why, then, is Britain concerned about an "insurgency" in its own streets?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-08-08 15:18|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-08-08 15:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Mrs. Davis - Thanks for the link. Am I missing something? Coruption in the big apple is not really news...

Posted by NYer4wot 2005-08-08 15:30|| 2005-08-08 15:30|| Front Page Top

#11 Re: #4

I am partial to impalement every 100 meters on the road from Baghdad to the Syrian border myself...

Posted by DanNY 2005-08-08 15:44|| 2005-08-08 15:44|| Front Page Top

#12 What does happen to all those assholes they arrest?

Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-08-08 16:17|| 2005-08-08 16:17|| Front Page Top

#13 impalement every 100 meters on the road from Baghdad to the Syrian border myself...

The M5 could use some decoration as well.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-08-08 16:36|| 2005-08-08 16:36|| Front Page Top

#14 First Rantburg makes me question my Democratic party upbringing, now it points out flawed coverage by my favorite paper. It has been a painful but eye opening experience. I hope this site is having similar effects on people like me everywhere. I recently caught myself checking this site first, it was always NYT first. A subtle shift, but I am hooked now.

My experience as well, almost word for word. Straight Dem ticket until 2002 (to counteract the ascendance of the "evil" repubs, dontchaknow) and considering the NYTimes the "paper of record".

Like Mrs. Davis said, the best thing we can do is spread the word. Most of my friends still think the way I used to, and social events sure were easier when we were all on the same page. But I keep trying to chip away at their monolithic belief system (it's really like a religion to most of them) with the occasional success. The single best thing you can do, IMNSHO, is tell them about Rantburg.

Posted by docob 2005-08-08 17:10|| 2005-08-08 17:10|| Front Page Top

#15 "need to install Saudi fire protection systems in the Iraqi jails"

Only works if the people inside are helpless elementary school girls accused of apostasy.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-08 18:57|| 2005-08-08 18:57|| Front Page Top

#16 NTer4wot, you're correct about big Apple corruption, but taking money from a Boy's and Girl's club to finance a political network does seem to be a recent low.

Posted by Kofi Annan 2005-08-08 19:00|| 2005-08-08 19:00|| Front Page Top

#17 but don't worry - we would be happy to have our diplomats feed them in exchange for sex.

Posted by kofi 2005-08-08 19:12|| 2005-08-08 19:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Docob,

Yeah, funny about those social occasions, I used to feel ganged up on, now I am armed with all the info I need (thanks again, 'burg). Wonder if the invites will start to disappear on me.

I've started working on my foreign 'friends' at work, reminding them not to bite the hand that feeds them, but it is an uphill struggle. Funny how they get pissed at the facts. Screw 'em.

Kofi - I agree, pretty low, but it will be eclipsed in no time - maybe even on the evening news tonight.

Posted by NYer4wot 2005-08-08 20:23|| 2005-08-08 20:23|| Front Page Top

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