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2005-08-07 Afghanistan/South Asia
Where bin Laden is, why he's still alive
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Posted by Croluse Gritch6990 2005-08-07 00:06|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Seriously, a man with severe kidney disfunction who needs frequent hospitalization and dialysis, is not a prime candidate for long term survival. You'll note that virtually everything from the top leadership is from Zawahiri, and Mr Big hasn't been heard from for quite some time.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-08-07 00:22||   2005-08-07 00:22|| Front Page Top

#2 I read the article earlier (if it's the one at Worldnet daily; sounds like it is, and I don't feel like checking) and it contradicted itself in places; it gave as proof that OBL was _not_ in Waziristan or Wana the (imperfect but not noted as such in this article) operations there in 2004 by the Pakistani Army that didn't find anything, but then turns around and says he won't be "found" in Dir by the Pakistani Army because their soldiers believe it would be wrong to betray him to the Americans...

BTW, did they ever find that sort of "evil overlord grade" underground fortress at Tora Bora?
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-08-07 00:27|| http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]">[http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2005-08-07 00:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Oh, one final note on the subject of WND: we may all be blown up tomorrow, but August 6 has come and gone and we haven't been blown up yet.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-08-07 00:30|| http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]">[http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2005-08-07 00:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Sorry but I gave up on Joseph Farah's bullshit years ago. Even a broken clock is right a day. Kinda like WND.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-08-07 00:36||   2005-08-07 00:36|| Front Page Top

#5 yallz are missen it agayne. osama in columbeeya tryin skore some blow.

reeder teh nyoos sumtime!
Posted by muck4doo 2005-08-07 02:47|| http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]">[http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2005-08-07 02:47|| Front Page Top

#6 On Sept. 11, 2001, the Pakistan terrorist entity was subject to a US embargo, and was almost out of foreign currency reserves. Musharaf held power by a thread after he led the catastrophic terror war in Kargil. The only thing that saved Mushy and his pig pen country was: US aid. The US government's decision to ally with one of the two gutter entities with Taliban ties (the other being the Saud tyranny), enabled mass harborage of al-Qaeda, notwithstanding the occasional show arrest. Currently, jihadist parties top voter polls in the terror entity. GWB should have chosen a scortched earth campaign against Taliban and its al-Qaeda allies, but instead chose to Americanize the terror entity's
"Pakistan in depth" policy. When indulged, terrorists take license. When subsidized, terrorists escalate terror.
Posted by Vlad the Muslim Impaler 2005-08-07 03:40||   2005-08-07 03:40|| Front Page Top

#7 > Seriously, a man with severe kidney disfunction who needs frequent hospitalization and dialysis, is not a prime candidate for long term survival.

I'm pretty sure that his kidney problems are more an urban legend than reality, unfortunately.
Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2005-08-07 04:41||   2005-08-07 04:41|| Front Page Top

#8 He has very bad nobby stiles from sittin on all those rocks. He has to pop to Peshewar for some anasol once in a while, then he will be out in the open.
Posted by Kent Mccord 2005-08-07 05:10||   2005-08-07 05:10|| Front Page Top

#9 i'm putting my money dead.
Posted by 2b 2005-08-07 05:42||   2005-08-07 05:42|| Front Page Top

#10 I think its nonsense. Predator are not that good. Dir Valley is hardly off limits. $25 million is a lot of money, enough to overcome many people's religious beliefs even if the did belive that ObL is some great religious scholar.




Posted by bernardz 2005-08-07 10:29||   2005-08-07 10:29|| Front Page Top

#11 Same here, 2b. A man with his immense ego surely would have found time to make an al-Jizz video by now, shouting Allah this and Jihad that. It's been what, 3 1/2 years now?
Posted by Raj 2005-08-07 10:34||   2005-08-07 10:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Wasn't there an audio tape a couple of months ago?
Posted by Bobby 2005-08-07 11:12||   2005-08-07 11:12|| Front Page Top

#13 PeriotenalCavo could keep the olde boy ticking over if he does have a kidney complaint. Getting rid of the waste in a socially conscious manner is a bit of a pain tho.
Posted by Shipman 2005-08-07 12:23||   2005-08-07 12:23|| Front Page Top

#14 I read this article last night. I didn't know what to think except for one thing that scares me. This article states that Muslims consider Bin Laden to be the Muslim messiah. If this is the case, we've got to take him out. IMO, Binny being considered a Muslim messiah is more dangerous than the terr that he commits.

I hope trolls don't show up on this thread. I really interested in reading a solid debate on this thread from expert RB's on this matter.
Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-07 12:55||   2005-08-07 12:55|| Front Page Top

#15 I believe our own Dan Darling said the kidney story was bunk - IIRC
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-08-07 13:56||   2005-08-07 13:56|| Front Page Top

#16 There were reports of him receiving dialysis inside a Pak military hospital in Rawalpindi canonment (headquarters of Pak army).

He probably lives in a mansion in Rawalpindi, guest of a Pak ISI General.

One pak fear is that the US will lose interest if he is caught and the money supply from the US treasury will dry up.
Posted by john 2005-08-07 14:40||   2005-08-07 14:40|| Front Page Top

#17 "Megaton bombs" ?

Please

Megaton bombs were dropped at the rate of 260 a day to ferret out the terrorists.
Posted by john 2005-08-07 14:43||   2005-08-07 14:43|| Front Page Top

#18 I don't recall what Dan said about the dialysis story.

I will note that, for patients with end-stage renal failure receiving hemodialysis (in English, people with kidney disease at the end of their rope getting dialysis via cleaning of the blood), the stated mortality is 10% per year of treatment. It's possible for people to be on dialysis long-term, and I've seen a number of patients like that, but very often problems crop up -- especially infection -- and they die. This is one of the reasons why the kidney docs push so hard for transplants; while transplant patients certainly have their set of problems, the mortality per year is substantially lower.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2005-08-07 18:40||   2005-08-07 18:40|| Front Page Top

#19 According to Khawaja's interrogation by Pakistani authorities, the long-standing rumors of bin Laden having kidney problems are a ruse deliberately concocted in order to have his enemies believe him to be largely immobile and depend on frequent access to medical aid.
Posted by Bernie 2005-08-07 19:50||   2005-08-07 19:50|| Front Page Top

#20 By most accounts, bin Laden is situated in that part of the world where one can buy body parts on the street. If all he needs is new kidneys, no doubt that was taken care of long ago.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-08-07 21:37||   2005-08-07 21:37|| Front Page Top

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