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2007-07-28 Iraq
Iraqi leader tells Bush: Get Gen Petraeus out
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Posted by Sherry 2007-07-28 17:26|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top
 File under: Iraqi Insurgency 

#1 Maliki's desire for Petraeus' departure is in direct proportion the Surge's success. The sooner Maliki is thrust from office the faster peace might be obtained in Iraq. Maliki's collusion with Moqtada Sadr has cost many American lives.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-28 17:45||   2007-07-28 17:45|| Front Page Top

#2 Mr Maliki also enjoys the backing of Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador and his predecessor, Zalmay Khalilzad, now America's representative at the United Nations
That gives me several more reasons to back Gen. Petraeus totally. Previous reports Egyptian intelligence warned us of Maliki's ties to Iranian Shia & lo and behold, he goes out a London window. Trust no one.
Posted by Danielle 2007-07-28 17:46||   2007-07-28 17:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Zenster - agreed. The first thing I thought when I saw the headline is that the surge is DEFINITELY working... to the point where al-Maliki's political backers are getting nervous.
Posted by eLarson 2007-07-28 17:58|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-07-28 17:58|| Front Page Top

#4 Another article I read said that Maliki had threatened Petraeus with the arming of Shia malitia with Iraqi government weapons. The article did not give Petraeus' response, but I can imagine.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-07-28 18:41||   2007-07-28 18:41|| Front Page Top

#5 This is not a black and white issue, but I'll bet Petraeus is probably more right than Maliki. Maliki does have to represent the majority (Shiite) opinion, but it seems to me those who wanted guns for jihad would have them in their posession already. Perhaps Maliki just needs lessons in logic, listening, compromising, consequences, and civility. You know, all those things his society seems to eschew in favor of selfishness and anger.
Posted by gorb 2007-07-28 19:33||   2007-07-28 19:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Agree with all. al-Maliki is complicit wot the deaths of scores of US service members. Petraeus's strategy is several steps in the right direction. If the Shias can't learn to share the power, piss on them.
Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2007-07-28 19:35|| http://theworldsworstblog-really.blogspot.com/]">[http://theworldsworstblog-really.blogspot.com/]  2007-07-28 19:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Seems like only yesterday that Maliki was "the one" -- honorable, committed, tough... it's not to be. Is there anyone we can trust among this ME swine herd?
Posted by regular joe 2007-07-28 19:53||   2007-07-28 19:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Maliki had threatened Petraeus with the arming of Shia malitia with Iraqi government weapons

He needs his ass handed to him on a platter for that.

Is there anyone we can trust among this ME swine herd?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: There is no "trust" to be had with Muslims. There are only varying degrees of mistrust. Here's an excerpt from an article by Khudayr Taher, the Shi'ite Muslim who has bravely called upon the United States to deport all of its Muslim population.
The only contradictory statement, which shatters much of the flattering talk revolving around Maliki, was made by Khudayr Taher, a US-based Shi'ite writer who has known Maliki since their days in exile in Syria in the 1980s.

Taher wrote an editorial in Arabic saying that he used to meet Maliki at the local library in Syria, where he would be doing research for his master's degree in Arabic literature, pointing out: "I do not claim that we were friends." Taher said Maliki had "modest general knowledge ... he will be a puppet in the hands of Jaafari, Hakim, the Kurds and Sunnis". He added that Maliki "does not believe in democracy because of his ideological commitments" in al-Da'wa Party, claiming that political Islam and democracy do not meet for someone like Maliki.

In a private discussion held when both men were in Syria, Maliki told Taher: "We declare our acceptance of democracy, but in reality, we are tricking them [the Americans] in order to topple Saddam and come to power." Taher writes: "I swear to God that this is exactly what he said!"

Taher adds that Maliki does not believe in the equality of women and will refuse to give any cabinet posts to Iraqi women, unless those imposed by the Kurds. He wraps up by saying that Maliki is anti-American, and has expressed his anti-American views to friends and in private discourse. He predicts that if Maliki succeeds in creating a cabinet, "it will not last long and will collapse after a few months".

The Iraqi prime minister will have a difficult time indeed warding off the accusations of someone like Khudayr Taher, pleasing the Americans while courting the Iranians, and winning the confidence of the Sunnis.

For now, he is on good terms with Washington, but if he is unable to break with Muqtada, the Americans will quickly abandon him. His remarks about disarming the militias, which unless specified also include Sadr's Mehdi Army, mean that he is not too keen about maintaining his friendship with Muqtada. If he loses it, however, how strong will his influence remain within the leading Shi'ite bloc, the United Iraqi Alliance (UIA)?
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Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-28 20:06||   2007-07-28 20:06|| Front Page Top

#9 Doh! The above article's author is actually Sami Moubayed.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-28 20:09||   2007-07-28 20:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Maliki has been the major problem. He screws ANY non-Shia general who is effective, relieving them of command or moving them around, if non-Shia units are becoming too effective against Shia, he has them moved.

al-Maliki has become a tool of Iran.

Time to send him good pictures of his family, taken through a bomb sight camera, with the numbers to his swiss bank accounts embossed ont he pictures.
Posted by OldSpook 2007-07-28 21:57||   2007-07-28 21:57|| Front Page Top

#11 And by the way, in the past, I have referred to our inability to hit JAM due to "political" constraints... Maliki is the source of much of those constraints.

Looks like the IA is becoming far too effective and non-sectarian for one-sided a-holes like him. When the IP gets there, he will be scare witless, because the police will investigate him and find exactly how badly he misused his authority to undermine any effort at defeating the Shia militias.
Posted by OldSpook 2007-07-28 22:01||   2007-07-28 22:01|| Front Page Top

#12 They need to clean out a lot of the current government.

Then they need to come over here and clean up ours.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-07-28 22:12||   2007-07-28 22:12|| Front Page Top

#13 This is not a black and white issue

Nope. It's "us vs. them" in the sense "USA goals vs. al Maliki personal/family/tribe goals".
Posted by gromgoru 2007-07-28 22:30||   2007-07-28 22:30|| Front Page Top

#14 When this appears in the NYT or WaPo, it will be confirming very good news indeed. It's also a set up for Petraeus/POTUS to claim success in the surge, and announce redployments. It's also, also a way to lever the Iraqi government around quite a bit - mix the stew a bit, beyond simply the police and army - admittedly it will take a while for them to ever move all the way from fear through respect to trust, but Petraeus is making great political-military progress.

Shame you can't find this analysis, let alone informed speculation, anywhere in the popular press.
Posted by Halliburton - Colonial Affairs Division 2007-07-28 22:37||   2007-07-28 22:37|| Front Page Top

#15 Bah. Petraeus could walk on water and the MSM headline will still be "Petraeus Can't Swim." Americans have heard this is a failure over their morning bran flakes for three years and now they can't believe anything else.
Posted by regular joe 2007-07-28 23:11||   2007-07-28 23:11|| Front Page Top

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