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2005-07-20 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Steve 2005-07-20 11:14|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The first thing I thought of when I saw the headline was a huge-eyed gray wearing a flak jacket and holding an M16. Gotta quit looking at those UFO sites.

Posted by Heynonymous 2005-07-20 11:49|| 2005-07-20 11:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Military service is an appropriate start to citizenship or permanent residency I think. The prospect is sound and they have to learn the language at least. And, the worthless bastards get to serve a purpose for at least a few years of their miserable lives.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-07-20 11:53|| 2005-07-20 11:53|| Front Page Top

#3 the worthless bastards ???

Posted by 2b 2005-07-20 12:21|| 2005-07-20 12:21|| Front Page Top

#4 I wouldn't call anyone serving in the armed forces (particulary now) a 'worthless bastard'.

And I think these numbers include Permanent Residents (who are non-citizens) and are here legally.

Just because they are non-citizens does not mean they are illegal aliens.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-07-20 12:33|| 2005-07-20 12:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Foreigners have been a contribution since Lafayette. Irish and Germans made up a marked portion of the old volunteer army in the 19th Century. Too many germans trying to avoid the military draft back home disembarked the ships in places like New York in the early 1860s only to find themselve serving in the Army of the Potomac. Made up practically an entire corps. The nationality may change, but the process is as old as America.

Posted by Glinemble Ulaviger5996 2005-07-20 12:39|| 2005-07-20 12:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Those from US territories are already US citizens and are not counted in these figures. The largest group are immigrant children, such as Mexicans, who have not yet taken the citizen oath. Following them are Caribbeans who see this as a great paycheck and entre into the US, and Filipinos, who have traditionally joined the US Navy.

Posted by ed 2005-07-20 12:45|| 2005-07-20 12:45|| Front Page Top

#7 The first thing I thought of when I saw the headline was a huge-eyed gray wearing a flak jacket and holding an M16.

They don't need Flak Jackets friend. But they are down on endurance in cold climates. The good news is that the extra 6 limbs allow them to be Medics, FAC and SAW crew at the same time.

Posted by Shipman 2005-07-20 13:03|| 2005-07-20 13:03|| Front Page Top

#8 How about that new movie Stealth? Controlled by evil infiltrator alien?

Posted by Captain America 2005-07-20 13:23|| 2005-07-20 13:23|| Front Page Top

#9 Worthless bastards

I've had sailors working for me who came from Colombia, Ghana, Israel (tank driver in the Yom Kippur War), Trinidad, Korea (a former ROK marine), Dominican Republic, India, Ireland, and the Philippines (three former marines and an MD). With few exceptions, they were among my best and proved it when the time came.

Bigjim, you are a stupid, parochial, son of a bitch. You clueless bastard. If you don't know what you're talking about, perform a rare courtesy and shut up.

Posted by Pappy 2005-07-20 13:38|| 2005-07-20 13:38|| Front Page Top

#10 It should be the policy of the United States of America that "service guarantees citizenship". That is any resident alien who enters the the armed forces of the United States of America and completes their term of service should attain U.S. Citizenship regardless of their legal status upon entry. They should also attain citizenship it they are injured such that they are forced to leave the service by their dutys as a Airman, Sailor, or Soldier. If they should die in service to the United States they shold be granted citizenship posthumously and any spouse and children should be fast tracked throught the citizenship process.

Those who serve in our armed forces deserve all our respect and loyalty regardless of their citizenship status. I honor all though those who make the sacrifice to serve in the Armed Forces of teh United States of America.

BigJim please take your xenophobic, racist crap and stuff it up your ass.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-07-20 14:07|| 2005-07-20 14:07|| Front Page Top

#11

Alien in the Armed forces...
Stealth Bomber tested at Area 51...

Posted by BigEd 2005-07-20 14:19|| 2005-07-20 14:19|| Front Page Top

#12 EXPEDITED CITIZENSHIP THROUGH MILITARY SERVICE

Under current immigration law, non-citizens must serve in the U.S. military for three years before they are eligible to apply for U.S. citizenship. However, during times of war, a President can issue an executive order, allowing non-citizens on active duty to become eligible for citizenship before completing the three-year service, senior administration officials said.

President Bush issued such an Order in July 2002 that allows certain non-citizens serving honorably in active duty status in the Armed Forces of the U.S. in the war against terrorism to be eligible for expedited naturalization. Expedited naturalizations are permitted under a section of the law that eliminates residence and physical presence requirements under certain conditions. In order to be eligible, a person must have served on active duty status on or since September 11, 2001 in the war against terrorism. The President will set the end date of eligibility, likely when the hostilities end.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-07-20 14:20|| 2005-07-20 14:20|| Front Page Top

#13 Here is the official site:
Veterans of U.S. Armed Forces

Certain applicants who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces are eligible to file for naturalization based on current or prior U.S. military service. Such applicants should file the N-400 Military Naturalization Packet.

Lawful Permanent Residents with Three Years U.S. Military Service

An applicant who has served for three years in the U.S. military and who is a lawful permanent resident is excused from any specific period of required residence, period of residence in any specific place, or physical presence within the United States if an application for naturalization is filed while the applicant is still serving or within six months of an honorable discharge.

To be eligible for these exemptions, an applicant must:

have served honorably or separated under honorable conditions;

completed three years or more of military service;

be a legal permanent resident at the time of his or her examination on the application; or establish good moral character if service was discontinuous or not honorable.
Applicants who file for naturalization more than six months after termination of three years of service in the U.S. military may count any periods of honorable service as residence and physical presence in the United States.

Naturalization Applicants Who Have Served Honorably in Any Specified Period of Armed Conflict with Hostile Foreign Forces

This is the only section of the Immigration and Naturalization Act that allows persons who have not been lawfully admitted for permanent residence to file their own application for naturalization. Any person who has served honorably during a qualifying time may file an application at any time in his or her life if, at the time of enlistment, reenlistment, extension of enlistment or induction, such person shall have been in the United States, the Canal Zone, American Samoa, or Swains Island, or on board a public vessel owned or operated by the United States for noncommercial service, whether or not he has been lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence.

An applicant who has served honorably during any of the following periods of conflict is entitled to certain considerations:

World War I - 4/16/17 to 11/11/18;

World War II - 9/1/39 to 12/31/46;

Korean Conflict - 6/25/50 to 7/1/55;

Vietnam Conflict - 2/28/61 to 10/15/78;

Operation Desert Shield/ Desert Storm - 8/29/90 to 4/11/91

Operation Enduring Freedom â 9/11/01 to (open);

or any other period which the President, by Executive Order, has designated as a period in which the Armed Forces of the United States are or were engaged in military operations involving armed conflict with hostile foreign forces.
Applicants who have served honorably during any of the aforementioned conflicts may apply for naturalization based on military service and no period of residence or specified period of physical presence within the United States or any State shall be required.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-07-20 14:25|| 2005-07-20 14:25|| Front Page Top

#14 Good 'enuf for me.

Posted by Shipman 2005-07-20 18:19|| 2005-07-20 18:19|| Front Page Top

#15 I am one of those worthless bastards myself.

My introduction to the US in 1969 came through the effective if imprudent strategem of enlisting in the US Army. I had a tour in Vietnam and a Purple Heart before I took the oath of citizenship on July 9, 1974.
I stayed on in the Army Reserve and saw combat again in DS1 and Somalia, eventually retiring at O-6.
That is full-bird Colonel for those of you unfamiliar with the rank system in the US.

I have never regreted any of it for one minute.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-07-20 18:41|| 2005-07-20 18:41|| Front Page Top

#16 I thank you, AC - and all others who've become Americans by serving, you're one of the prime reasons for America's amazing success and viability. I know your posts here at RB are also highly respected and valued. Thx, bro!

I think bigjim-ky had a brainfart. A momentary lapse. A simple apology would end it AFAIC.

Anyone who contributes and assimilates is welcome, IMO.

Posted by .com 2005-07-20 18:52|| 2005-07-20 18:52|| Front Page Top

#17 What kind of a bird, AC? ;-)

Anyway, what .com said. I'm awfully glad you're here, in all your capacities!

Posted by trailing wife 2005-07-20 20:48|| 2005-07-20 20:48|| Front Page Top

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