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2007-07-11 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
US hasn't yet grasped Iran threat
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Posted by gromgoru 2007-07-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top
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#1 Guess its official - 2009 or mid-2009 'tis the last benchmark. The USA-Allies either accepts a nuclearized, misslized- and weaponized Iran + Radical Islamism-Fundamentalism, or we don't. Dubya leaves the WH in January 2009. Unless the USA makes some major ass-kissing concessions, Iran can't wait for 2012 = end of the first term of a post-dubya successor. IT will want to acquire nuke weapons before US entrenchment gets too strong to counter/intimidate.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-07-11 00:23||   2007-07-11 00:23|| Front Page Top

#2 Guess its official - 2009 or mid-2009 'tis the last benchmark. The USA-Allies either accepts a nuclearized, misslized- and weaponized Iran + Radical Islamism-Fundamentalism, or we don't. Dubya leaves the WH in January 2009. Unless the USA makes some major ass-kissing concessions, Iran can't wait for 2012 = end of the first term of a post-Dubya successor. Iran will want to acquire de facto nuke weapons before US entrenchment gets too strong to counter/
intimidate.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-07-11 00:24||   2007-07-11 00:24|| Front Page Top

#3 In the survey, 52 percent of Iranians said they favor their country developing nuclear weapons with the same number also saying it's important that Iran use its oil and gas revenue to develop nuclear arms.

However slim, that's a majority and needs to be taken seriously. Obviously, the survey's stats and process aren't available, but the lack of overwhelming unrest in Iran points towards some veracity in that 52% figure.

Yet that compared with nine in 10 who supported using the money to create jobs, tame inflation, buttress the oil and gas industry and develop nuclear power.

The only thing this indicates is that cognitive dissonance still remains an immensely popular pastime in the MME (Muslim Middle East). That former 52% majority increases the relevance of a preceding point made by Berman.

"I would think that any sober person" looking at the social and economic unrest in Iran today "would have to bet even money on the generation that's coming up," he said.

America needs to forget about "behavior change". That 52% figure literally screams intractability. Hidden in these statistics is the singular fact that our last and best hope for Iran is its younger generation.

These are people least likely to possess or have access to the weapons and strategic knowledge that can effect regime change.

Regime change in Iran is vital to any positive outcome from engaging them with military force. Decapitation of Iran's theocratic leadership is a critical signal that needs to be sent to all other MME nations.

As John David Lewis mentions in his stirring treatise regarding the defeat of Islamic theocracy, "No Substitute for Victory":
The Muslim world must be made to understand that any government that provides economic support to jihadists will be summarily destroyed. In order for this policy to be taken seriously, we must demonstrate its truth—by destroying the Iranian regime and stating why we have done so. Only the clear threat that “you will be next” can break the entangled network of Islamic economic support for jihad that masquerades as “economic development.” There can be no more playing games with Saudi apologists who speak smooth English and describe their work as “charity.” In 2003, the International Islamic Relief Organization, a Saudi charity, claimed to have dug 1,615 wells throughout the Middle East—but it also established 4,400 mosques and distributed millions of Islamic books and pamphlets. The result has been the display, on television, of young children as “True Muslims,” trained to see Jews as pigs and apes, screaming “Allahu Akbar” and dedicating themselves to jihad. Such “charity” means raising money to spread the ideas, and tactics, of Totalitarian Islam. It must end.

[snip]

In summary, Political Islam, Militant Islam, rule by Islamic Law—and all the economic and intellectual support associated with it—must go. This means that Iran must go.
[emphasis added]

None of the above seems to have permeated a White House that still insists upon calling Islam "The Religion of Peace" [spit]. Until that changes, America's elite traitor class is nearly an equal danger to that of Islam itself.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-11 01:09||   2007-07-11 01:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Hmmm. Sounds like Pres. Clinton II will have to handle this. Hope she has an itchy trigger finger.
Posted by Woozle Elmeter2970 2007-07-11 01:23||   2007-07-11 01:23|| Front Page Top

#5 Joe,
Why do you think 2012 will bring the conflict?

The year 2012 has significance with both the Sunni's and with Catholics.
Posted by usmc6743 2007-07-11 01:28||   2007-07-11 01:28|| Front Page Top

#6 Mayan calendar (and world) ends on December 21, 2012.
Posted by Quatzequatel 2007-07-11 04:12||   2007-07-11 04:12|| Front Page Top

#7 Since the 'thirties, US administrations have believed that religion is a source of stability in the Middle East. Jimmy Carter chased a secular government out of Iran, after a sustained campaign against the Shah's internal security parties. Bush2 tossed seculars out of Iraq; much of the early success in the liberation of Iraq, occured because of secret armistice deals with Shiite clerics. And the Wahabist grounded Saudis have never faced any criticism from any White House dweller. The President isn't the first dhimmi; hopefully he will be the last.
Posted by McZoid 2007-07-11 04:43||   2007-07-11 04:43|| Front Page Top

#8 The year 2012 has significance with both the Sunni's and with Catholics.
I'm catholic. How come nobody's ever told me about the significance of 2012?

Regarding the Maya calendar - I thought that was just when there was a particular alignment with the Milky Way ie. They worked out when the Earth lined up with a dark area within 2 bright arms of the Milky Way which they thought was a pathway to the afterlife. Not necessarily the end of the world (I hope). On the downside, however, if you miss the pathway to the afterlife you may end just end up staying on Earth with the mullahs - YIKES!
Posted by Gladys 2007-07-11 05:15||   2007-07-11 05:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Did anything catastrophic happen at the beginning point of the Mayan calendar?
Posted by eLarson 2007-07-11 08:33|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-07-11 08:33|| Front Page Top

#10  I suspect the current administration's hesitation on dealing with Iran is mostly due to Iran's strategic location as a chokepoint on the world oil market. There are really no good answers. With the majority of Iran's citizens drunk on Islamofascist Kool-aid and willing to follow the mad mullahs to hell, the current policy to accelerate the collapse of Iran's economy just might work.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-07-11 09:47||   2007-07-11 09:47|| Front Page Top

#11 Speaking of Maya Calendar, according this this scientist, the events of 2012 already happened back in 1997.
Link

Is there an Alignment between the Galactic Equator and the Sun at Winter Solstice 2012?:

No.

In fact there is an alignment between the Sun and the Galactic Equator at the time of Winter Solstice, but it has already happened. It happened back in 1997 [21st December 1997 AD 14h 43m GMT]. So, if the Maya did go through the sequence of the argument given above, their astrological predictions were out by some 15 years. [Which actually would be pretty good, seeing as they didn't have computers or astrological software to help them.]

So the good news is if you were in any way worried about what might astrologically happen in 2012, don't worry: it already happened back in 1997.

[Note: the Sun never aligns with the Galactic Center itself, because the Sun's path through the heavens, as seen from Earth [the Ecliptic] lies more than 5° above the Galactic Center. This is something that Mr Jenkins himself has pointed out, but the fact has become garbled in subsequent coverage of his ideas.
Posted by Delphi 2007-07-11 11:36||   2007-07-11 11:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Los Angeles, Alta California - April 4, 2005 - (ACN) The coming Vatican Conclave to select the next "Vicar of Christ" may be the last according to religious sources knowledgeable in Biblical Prophecy, in Roman Catholic Church history and in the Indigenous traditions of the Americas. Information synthesised from Revelation and the Gospels in the New Testament, from Daniel in the Old Testament and from the Mayan Popol Vuh points to a coming cataclysmic event and the beginning of a totally new Era for mankind. This cataclysmic event (Fin de los Tiempos) will occur, according to the Mayan Long Calendar, on December 21, 2012 when the Earth and Sun align with the center of our Milky Way galaxy.

Biblical prophets as well as Catholic and other Christian scholars have for a long time written about the "End Times" and the second coming of Jesus Christ (Quetzalcoatl) to establish the New Jerusalem. What is not generally known is that many of the Old and New Testament Biblical prophecies of the "End Times" correlate amazingly with the religious beliefs of the Mayas and other Indigenous civilizations of the Western Hemisphere. These similarities are more apparent when one analyses the "End Times" account of St. John in the last chapter of the Bible called Revelation and the account of the "Fin de los Tiempos" in the Popol Vuh which is considered to be the Mayan (as well as the Mexica/Aztec) Bible.


The whole article is here: http://aztlan.net/the_last_pope.htm

Me, I'm planning on putting 2 cases of 2012 Vieux Chateau Certan in my cellar on 2014.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2007-07-11 11:39||   2007-07-11 11:39|| Front Page Top

#13 Does it mean anything if the culture ended before their calendar does? Maybe they were over confident? Or the Spaniards arrived unexpectedly early? You gotta hate that in a guest, especially one who then goes ahead and steals the cutlery.
Posted by My O Maya 2007-07-11 11:40||   2007-07-11 11:40|| Front Page Top

#14 Incidentally, I suspect elements within the administration fully grasp the Iran threat.

The rest of the admin--the president included--also grasp the political impossibility of mobilizing the country for war in Iran.
Posted by eLarson 2007-07-11 14:24|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-07-11 14:24|| Front Page Top

#15 eLarson, I have to dispute this. If Bush fully appreciated the Iranian threat he would use his last term executive powers to launch pre-emptive strikes against Iran in light of how they constitute a clear and present danger. In such cases, the president is empowered to do so without congressional approval. All that needs to happen are massive bombing strikes against key facilities without real boots on the ground. It would all be over before the devil could get his shoes on. Congress wouldn't even have the time to get its panties in a wad.

Despite his trotting out "Islamofascism", that Bush continues to spew the Religion of Peace [spit] Kool-Aid indicates a distinct lack of grasp. No, I do not expect him to declare war on all Islam, but at least he could stop paying highly deceptive lip service to our devout enemy.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-11 18:26||   2007-07-11 18:26|| Front Page Top

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