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2006-07-04 
"Ye that dare oppose not only tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth!"
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Posted by lotp 2006-07-04 07:40|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 frightening how relevant these writings seems today when less than a decade ago they seemed like ancient history. I guess it's an indicator of where we are right now. Bittersweet on the happy 4th - thanks.
Posted by 2b 2006-07-04 09:18||   2006-07-04 09:18|| Front Page Top

#2 It's not enough to be in favor of freedom in general, of democracy and libery in principle.

I'd be happy if I thought the Euros had gotten this far (with some notable exceptions in England, Denmark, New Europe and maybe the Netherlands). It's because I they haven't that I am not surprised they are willing to neither sacrifice nor risk, even in their own defence. They merely see themselves exchanging one set of masters for another. It's always been the way over there. Brussels, Mecca, what's the difference?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-04 09:29||   2006-07-04 09:29|| Front Page Top

#3 As the EU bureaucrats have demonstrated, they don't believe in the fundamental difference between them and America in that "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." When the people in Europe rejected the EU Constitution, that was suppose to be that. However, the bureaucrats still plod on seeking to impose government upon the people.
Posted by Slomoper Jolumble7671 2006-07-04 09:34||   2006-07-04 09:34|| Front Page Top

#4 One problem with the Euros is that after colonialism, WW1 and WW2 and decolonialism they found that the bulk of people willing to fight for their beliefs had been taken out of the gene pool or left to the US. That left Eurocrats in control of the media and the politics.

Islam might be enough to wake them up but I think it will have to get really bad first, so bad that its a close run thing if Europe can pull out in time or if a flood of Christian Europeans heads to North America and Europe truly becomes Eurabia.

On the bright side Turkey will probably gain admittance to the EU at that point, for whatever its worth.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2006-07-04 09:38|| rjschwarz.com]">[rjschwarz.com]  2006-07-04 09:38|| Front Page Top

#5 And the failure of the Eurabian continent will be blamed on everyone else other than Europe. The west wouldn't trade with them out of racism, the Christians sabotaged the economies before fleeing. Etc, Etc.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2006-07-04 09:39|| rjschwarz.com]">[rjschwarz.com]  2006-07-04 09:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Islam might be enough to wake them up but I think it will have to get really bad first, so bad that its a close run thing if Europe can pull out in time

Have they ever pulled themselves out before? I know Europeans always fought each other but what about stronger outside forces?? I know that tiny Britain used to put up a good fight but it's not looking good for them now with such a strong 5th column. Maybe this just a sequel to the The Roman Conquest.
Posted by 2b 2006-07-04 09:59||   2006-07-04 09:59|| Front Page Top

#7 This one line is the whole difference in America and Europe

"deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

The whole point here hasn't changed in all these years, "We The People" have nobody else to blame.
In Europe they want to have some big powerful Scapegoat to blame, where the whole difference here is that there's no one "Baddie" to lay the blame on.

However the People still try, hence the scapegoating of Bush (As the biggest, current "Baddie") and not the People realizing that they, themnselves (Ourselves) are the ones to blame.

You don't like it, change it (Nah too much trouble to actually do something) but so easy to blame.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-07-04 10:22||   2006-07-04 10:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Blame - the fuel that feeds the mouths of tyrants.
Posted by 2b 2006-07-04 11:53||   2006-07-04 11:53|| Front Page Top

#9 And in this case the Tyranny is Islam. The tyrant is dogma whipped into the flesh at an early age.
Surrender and obey, we are your masters.
The first rule is to die for Allan. It's called splodydope.
The second rule is to pursue alternate identities. And so on.
Posted by wxjames 2006-07-04 15:22||   2006-07-04 15:22|| Front Page Top

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