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2014-07-25 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Howard Stern's how to debate "anti-zionists"

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-07-25 04:23|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 Perhaps we should debate the "Anti-Americanists" in a like manner, rather than accept the 'euphemism' for America's 'demise.'

American Jews tend to stake out left-liberal with respect to the concerns of their fellow Americans, but are rightist on matters Israel. For America, leftist Jews advocate a multicultural, immigration free-for-all, pluralist pottage. At the same time for Israel, most Jews claim the right to retain a creedal and cultural distinctiveness and a Jewish majority. Israel, but not the US, should be allowed to control immigration and guard its borders.

Ask any left-liberal American Jew if he supports a “Right of Return” to Israel proper for every self-styled Palestinian refugee, and he’ll recoil: “Are you mad? Never. That’s a euphemism for Israel’s demise.” The very thing he opposes for Israel, the leftist Jew is inclined to champion for America: a global right of return to the US for the citizens of the world. When it comes to “returning” to America only (but not Israel), humankind is said to possess a positive, manufactured right to venture wherever, whenever. (This view is common among American liberals of all religious persuasions.) [From "The Titan is Tired"]

Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-25 06:06|| 2014-07-25 06:06|| Front Page Top

#2 And perhaps you should debate it with Howard Stern, Besoeker.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-07-25 07:20|| 2014-07-25 07:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Deeply embedded in all the Semitic cultures (not just the Jews) is a tendency to 'argue for the sake of arguing' and call it a virtue.
Note: I'm not saying nobody else does this.

Posted by ed in texas 2014-07-25 07:28|| 2014-07-25 07:28|| Front Page Top

#4 Ed, don't let Besoeker mess with your head. Just ask yourself the following questions.
(1) Is voting Democrat = left wing (see RINO)?
(2) Do left wing Jews support Israel?
(3) Assume there are American Jews who only care about Israel. Does the historical record suggests that they should vote Republican?

Posted by 2014-07-25 08:34|| 2014-07-25 08:34|| Front Page Top

#5 #4 is mine.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-07-25 08:38|| 2014-07-25 08:38|| Front Page Top

#6 g(r)omski ~ "The Titan is Tired" was obviously not written by me. It was written by Mercer, the daughter of a Rabbi.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-25 08:59|| 2014-07-25 08:59|| Front Page Top

#7 Very relevant.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-07-25 09:36|| 2014-07-25 09:36|| Front Page Top

#8 I tend to usually not agree with Howard Stern about much of anything. In this instance, IMO he is spot on.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-07-25 10:21|| 2014-07-25 10:21|| Front Page Top

#9 Kinda sounds like Ted Nugent was his ghost writer.

Posted by Skidmark 2014-07-25 11:16|| 2014-07-25 11:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Actually, when I posted the above, I was thinking about Howard Stern. I think he frequently takes a contrarian position just to start an argument; which, after all is the business he's in.

Posted by ed in texas 2014-07-25 12:47|| 2014-07-25 12:47|| Front Page Top

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