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2011-07-23 Europe
Norway horror: 80 die in camp shooting, 7 in blast
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Posted by Steve White 2011-07-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ]  Top

#1 Up to 87 now - at first it appeared that it was being repor + described as a severe domestic hate crime, IIRC "MORE LIKE OKLAHOMA CITY THAN THE WTC ON 9-11" vee FOX NEWS AM.

LOOKS LIKE ITS BACK TO "WTC" NOW = As per FREEREPUBLIC, an UNKNOWN ISLAMIC MILITANT GROUP IS REPOR NOW CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY for the Kiddie wipeout.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-07-23 00:14||   2011-07-23 00:14|| Front Page Top

#2 blonde-blue eyed Norwegian with reported Christian fundamentalist, anti-Muslim views

The One himself couldn't have picked a better candidate.

Fortunately, my hair is no longer blonde, so I won't be in the first group rounded up.
Posted by Bobby 2011-07-23 07:28||   2011-07-23 07:28|| Front Page Top

#3 I only saw the You Tube, but it seemed when Maobama had his melt down he made not mention of this, no condolences, no nothing. If so, that says a lot.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-07-23 07:42||   2011-07-23 07:42|| Front Page Top

#4 He called the Norwegian prime minister to express his support. He's fine in this.
They've arrested a second suspect - get this - a member of the same party that got shot up.
I think the nut they've described so far is just a nut, a la Lee Harvey Oswald.
Eyewitnesses have said there were two shooters.
The pieces don't fit quite yet.
Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2011-07-23 08:13||   2011-07-23 08:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Something doesn't smell right: the island is small but is covered by dense forest so people could easily hide. Also he killed 80 people. Add for misses, add for people he just wounded and escaped and for people he had to finish off. How many bullets would have he been carrying? How much would weigh the ammo (not just the bullets but the magazines). Also I have mentioned the forest: seeking people in it for further victims (I assume after the first shots people would disperse) would have taken time; lots of it. How it is that police didn't arrive?

The only logical explanation is that thre was more than one shooter.
Posted by JFM 2011-07-23 08:26||   2011-07-23 08:26|| Front Page Top

#6 That's what happens when you oppress tall blond Nordics.

I have as much sympathy for Norwegians as they do for the thousands of Israelis killed in terror attacks.
Posted by Phager the Rash2607 2011-07-23 08:36||   2011-07-23 08:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Only comment at this time: condolences to the Parents who lost their Children and families who lost treasured loved ones.
Posted by Charles 2011-07-23 09:53||   2011-07-23 09:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Phager the Rash put it better than I could.
Posted by Excalibur 2011-07-23 10:53||   2011-07-23 10:53|| Front Page Top

#9 JFM, the missing piece is apparently he dressed like a cop and had the kids come towards him, then he shot at them.

If the initial stories are true this one one sick individual.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-07-23 10:53||   2011-07-23 10:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Cry Me A River

What were the Labor Party’s youth discussing on Utoya before being shot to death? The group’s leader was denouncing Israel, calling for a boycott, and supporting recognition of a Palestinian state.
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http://auf.no/-/bulletin/show/671591_til-kamp-mot-fremmedfrykt?ref=mst

AUF leader Eskil Pedersen believes it is time for stronger measures against Israel. He is impatient on behalf of a permanent two-state solution. – The world must exert tougher pressure.

In the morning, visiting Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store Utøya. He will, among other things, participate in a debate on the situation in the Middle East.
AUF has clear advice to the Norwegian government.

“We like to talk, but as we have seen so has Israel not been interested, and have not listened to any of the clashes that have been made. The peace process is the wrong way, and though the whole world screaming for Israel to comply, they do not. We in Labour Youth will have a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side,” says Eskil Pedersen told Dagbladet.
Posted by Phager the Rash2607 2011-07-23 11:02||   2011-07-23 11:02|| Front Page Top

#11 Based on reading Norwegian newspapers and some of the writings the shooter posted online in 2009 and 2010:

He held that multi-culturalism is as evil and eventually as oppressive as communism (anti-individual), nazism (anti-jewish), and islamism (anti-kaffir). His targets were the social-democrat government and a "Youth Camp" for future leaders of the same political party. Given his logic, it's as if back in the mid-30s he bombed Hitler's Chancery Building plus attacked a "summer camp" designed to nurture future nazi leaders, all in one day.

He had an hour to walk around the island and shoot people. Apparently, nobody made any attempt to fight him, they just ran, hid inside tents, begged for mercy, tried to swim with all clothes on, and hoped to survive by playing dead. He brought multiple weapons with him, and a bag full of ammo, calmly announced that they were all going to die. Some survivors claim that they heard shots from multiple directions, leading them to believe there were multiple shooters.
Posted by Shereter Poodle9774 2011-07-23 12:10||   2011-07-23 12:10|| Front Page Top

#12 Just when you think that Janet Napolitano has completely lost her mind, this Norwegian psychotic comes and gives her some transient credibility.

Everything about this guy is wrong...blonde, blue eyed, Norwegian, Christian and Crazy.

The difference between this guy and the nutjobs in Islam is that he is crazy and they are not. They believe they are doing the right thing. He's lost touch with reality.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2011-07-23 12:43||   2011-07-23 12:43|| Front Page Top

#13 Update by Norwegian police: the shooting lasted 1.5 h

He had two weapons one "single-hand" and one "two-hand" guns. He put his weapons down and surrendered when the police arrived. He has not offered any motive since his arrest. He bought 6,000 kg of fertilizer, apparently used half of it.
Posted by Shereter Poodle9774 2011-07-23 12:46||   2011-07-23 12:46|| Front Page Top

#14 He brought multiple weapons with him, and a bag full of ammo, calmly announced that they were all going to die.

Multiple weapons. That means around 10 pounds per long weapon. Plus ammo (between 500 to 1000 rounds). Plus magazines.

About the killer, he also was a mason (PC press often omitted this) and an admier of an American philosopher who was from a trotskist family (left of communists), who opposed the war on Irak and hated WWB.
Posted by JFM 2011-07-23 13:04||   2011-07-23 13:04|| Front Page Top

#15 @Phager the Rash2607

It's one thing to criticize the Norwegian Labour Party (aka Socialists) for the stance against Israel.

It's an entirely other thing to say "cry me a river" over the death of innocent kids aged 14-16

Maybe you should think about it once more
Posted by Flavigum Crairt2062 2011-07-23 13:39||   2011-07-23 13:39|| Front Page Top

#16 Easy to do in a gun-free zone. If these people had been carrying, most all would have survived.
Posted by KBK 2011-07-23 13:43||   2011-07-23 13:43|| Front Page Top

#17 Flavigum Crairt2062 was me
Posted by European Conservative 2011-07-23 13:47||   2011-07-23 13:47|| Front Page Top

#18 An oddity: According to Aftenposten (translated), the police had staged an anti-terrorist training operation on the same block just two weeks before the attack. This created some disturbance, because the public was not fully informed that it was just an exercise.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-07-23 14:12||   2011-07-23 14:12|| Front Page Top

#19 Hey Justice, as a subhuman moronic ass monkey, what's it like not having a soul?
Posted by Silentbrick - Halliburton Lost Drill Bit Division 2011-07-23 14:30||   2011-07-23 14:30|| Front Page Top

#20 wow that must've been a Ferguson to flush that much Saoodi shit so quickly
Posted by Frank G 2011-07-23 14:58||   2011-07-23 14:58|| Front Page Top

#21 BA WOOSH!

Absolutely my favorite MwC scene.
Posted by badanov 2011-07-23 15:00|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-07-23 15:00|| Front Page Top

#22 ;-)
Posted by Frank G 2011-07-23 15:03||   2011-07-23 15:03|| Front Page Top

#23 My sympathies to the victims of this tragedy, particularly the children, their parents, and relatives. As to the perpetrator(s) - I hope they receive swift justice for their horrendous crimes.
Posted by CincinnatusChili 2011-07-23 16:16||   2011-07-23 16:16|| Front Page Top

#24 2 things occur to me as I read about this outrage:

1) Norway has compulsory military service for males 18-44, as benefits their small population. It's entirely *possible* that this crazy-head knew how to shoot.
2) As always, our despicable journalist-class leaves out any context for what 'right-wing' means in Europe. As a general rule, a rabid right-winger in America would be 'center-right' in Europe.
Posted by Free Radical 2011-07-23 16:31||   2011-07-23 16:31|| Front Page Top

#25 Something fishy this way comes.

Someone took a screen shot of his Facebook page, and went back later to discover that his interests had suddenly changed, to include "Christian" and "conservative", shortly after he was captured.

Here are the before and after screenshots.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-07-23 17:18||   2011-07-23 17:18|| Front Page Top

#26 Norwegian sources claim there is a YouTube video the shooter prepared before the attack, plus a 1500-page manifesto he sent out to 7,000 facebook connections he had. Apparently a group of people planned a European movement against Islamism, back in 2002.
Posted by Shereter Poodle9774 2011-07-23 17:38||   2011-07-23 17:38|| Front Page Top

#27 A copy of the killer's manifesto is at this page: 2083 -- A European Declaration of Independence
Posted by Shereter Poodle9774 2011-07-23 17:59||   2011-07-23 17:59|| Front Page Top

#28 From the intro of his manifesto, he planned the bombing and island-shooting as self-sacrifical "marketing" for his anti-islamist, anti-multiculturalist message.

He feels that his message is an echo of European resistance to Islamist conquest from the 8th to the 19th century, and that there are decades of war with Islamism ahead of us.
Posted by Shereter Poodle9774 2011-07-23 18:26||   2011-07-23 18:26|| Front Page Top

#29 Do you think any MSM will report the motivation to attack the government HQ and the camp for future party leaders: fear that the ultimate enemy of Western Civilization is marxism and its modern product multi-culturalism, which have together enabled the rapid growth of militant Islamism in the heart of the West?

The question they should all ask: why exactly would an anti-Islamist attack his "own" people? what is the connection between the Leftist Youth Camp and the Moslem Wars?
Posted by Shereter Poodle9774 2011-07-23 19:24||   2011-07-23 19:24|| Front Page Top

#30 From what I can tell watching these Norwegians, they are the coldest, most soulless people on earth; from the prime Minister right down to the little HitlerJugend there on the island.

The PM was proud to tell the cameras that they he had visited the island a few days earlier to for a political meeting to "discuss" the Middle East. I'll bet it was real balanced discussion, eh.

Fewer of these Fuhrer worshipers and the world be a better place.

Posted by Phager the Rash2607 2011-07-23 20:04||   2011-07-23 20:04|| Front Page Top

#31 Screw you Phager. 80 children were murdered. Take your cold, most soulless Jew Supremacist crap elsewhere.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-07-23 21:26||   2011-07-23 21:26|| Front Page Top

#32 
Enough of that, Phager. I'm not going to blame children for their own deaths. Their political views aren't important. That this man coldly and callously gunned them down is what matters.

People start going your way we're going to end up with eye-for-an-eye justice. Then we'll all be blind. No thanks.
Posted by Steve White 2011-07-23 21:46||   2011-07-23 21:46|| Front Page Top

#33 Fewer of these Fuhrer worshipers and the world be a better place.

Very few people were amused when Ward Churchill called the people working in the WTC on 9/11 'little Eichmanns.'
Posted by Free Radical 2011-07-23 23:06||   2011-07-23 23:06|| Front Page Top

#34 Very disgusting comment Phager.
Posted by Penguin 2011-07-23 23:59||   2011-07-23 23:59|| Front Page Top

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