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2003-07-22 Iraq
U.N. & Koffi, continue to twist America’s nose
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Posted by Domingo 2003-07-22 11:45:22 AM|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Kofi: Go FY.

U.S. out of the UN NOW!!
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2003-7-22 11:59:49 AM||   2003-7-22 11:59:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This is a mistake.

Geo43: Stop talking to these clowns. Even if it hurts like hell, do not deal with them. They have never EVER solved a single bona-fide problem. Only individual states, going beyond and around the UN, have ever truly accomplished real results. It would be better to open up the services for a larger volunteer force or reinstitute the draft than to continue being bled dry and shat upon (intentional spelling) by this bunch of ankle-biting voyeurs.

C'mon Geo43: Pull the plug. We'll do our business and either do it with whomever has the cajones to join in - or do it alone. No more UN anchor-dragging. Just bite the bullet and cut it loose.
Posted by PD 2003-7-22 12:39:13 PM||   2003-7-22 12:39:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 no state in the history of the world has managed to do all its business alone. And we cant either. If we aren't mature enough to deal with the frustrations of having allies, etc, we should try to withdraw into a fortress.
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-7-22 1:04:40 PM||   2003-7-22 1:04:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 LH--Very true. Which is why we should work closely with our true allies and proven friends, of which the UN is neither.
Posted by Dar  2003-7-22 1:16:39 PM||   2003-7-22 1:16:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 LH, we can still have allies and friend to work with WITHOUT the hassle and frustration of being shackled to the UN.
Posted by Flaming Sword 2003-7-22 1:22:04 PM||   2003-7-22 1:22:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 LH - If the UN was a constructive body and a positive force for change and comprised of nation-states that shared most of our values - you'd be absolutely right.

Factually, however, the UN encompasses a large number of entities with which we have nothing in common - not in our body of law, our goals, our values - none of the areas of importance when considering with whom you wish to ally yourself or with whom you would voluntarily choose to associate.

It is composed of all the tyrannical, dictatorial, murderous, utterly corrupt, politically-challenged and despicable regimes on the planet. It is a mob. For an impossible to explain or justify example, consider the UN Human Rights Commission, chaired by Lybia. Note that we were denied a seat on this commission, but Cuba was accepted. Read the link. Truly, consider it. This is just the latest and most obvious example of why the UN is an absurdity. We have witnessed the decline and descent of the UN to a body infected with stupidity and virulent hate and jealousy as its primary message. Just consider its treatment of Israel and the "Palestine Question" to see that the first victim of this foolishness was truth. It is irretrievable.

The UN, to a country such as the US, is much like the Chinese torture known as "one thousand cuts."

If there is to be a coalition of nations that share our goals, one with whom we would be proud to be associated - it will have to be reinvented - and have some requirements for membership, this time. The UN, as with the League, has been overtaken by the cretins, the cowards, the fools, one cut at a time.
Posted by PD 2003-7-22 1:35:00 PM||   2003-7-22 1:35:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 While I would welcome a curb in UN funding on the part of the US and perhaps even their relocation outside of our borders, I wouldn't necessarily be prepared to give up our veto power. Basically I would not turn my back on the UN for fear of what the little turds might cook up.
Posted by Domingo 2003-7-22 1:48:25 PM||   2003-7-22 1:48:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Unparalleled Nincompoops
Posted by Hodadenon  2003-7-22 1:50:13 PM||   2003-7-22 1:50:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Kofi's comments are meant for within the UN building. And France, of course. Anyone with sense understands that in balance, things are going reasonably well in Iraq and will get better if the pimp and daddy's puppy got whacked today.

Does anyone think that if the UN were in charge we'd have hundreds of town councils handling local affairs throughout much of Iraq? That we'd have an interim national council that is at all representative and willing to work together? That millions of Iraqis would be going on about their lives, trying to re-build and make things a little better?

No, we'd have UN functionaries and consultants eating the best food, complaining about the available wines, making rude comments about the locals, and arrogantly deciding themselves how Iraq should be run. We'd have Kofi's buddies in charge. And worst of all, Hans Blix would come out of retirement.

Screw 'em. Sure, we're close to over-extended, we're spending a lot of money, and the morale of our guys over there is taking a hit. Hang in there, 3ID, what you're doing is worthwhile and important. We're doing a good job in 3/4 of the country, and as soon as we peg some more of the rat bastards the Sunnis will get the idea. We're on course. Ignore the UN.
Posted by Steve White  2003-7-22 3:17:37 PM||   2003-7-22 3:17:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 "It is important that Iraqis are able to see a clear timetable leading to the full restoration of sovereignty," Annan wrote in his report.

Which Iraqis would those be, Kof? The Iraqi people, the regular folk? Because "sovereignty" is not a concept with which they are recently familiar. You make this sound like putting the Kuwaiti royalty back on throne after a few unpleasant months in 1991. You can't restore what the Iraqi people have never had. And you can't build it for the first time in under six months.
Posted by (lowercase) matt 2003-7-22 3:22:57 PM||   2003-7-22 3:22:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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