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Clinton Adviser Berger Probed in Terror Memos

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Posted by Frank G 2004-07-19 8:17:00 PM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 rewriting history, Sandy?

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-19 8:21:29 PM|| 2004-07-19 8:21:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Frank -- Definitely. Wow.

And as for the "sloppiness" statement - WHAT? Berger's acting like lifting classified documents is no big deal - when he KNOWS it's drop-dead prison time. And this lame disingenous liar was Clinton's NSA? He RAN the office? He had regular access to everything? This is how he treats classified intel? He figures discarding classified docs from the Archives is trivial?

Nail this asshole to the wall.

Leavenworth. Big rocks = little rocks. 20 years.

Posted by .com 2004-07-19 8:28:55 PM|| 2004-07-19 8:28:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 it just made the headline and flashing light at Drudge, LOL. This is going to go over really well before the Dem convention...shows the ass-covering unseriousness of the Clinton years in technicolor

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-19 8:32:08 PM|| 2004-07-19 8:32:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 What do you guys think the actual meaning of this is? Why'd he do it? Was he hiding something or is he just that big of a moron?

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-07-19 8:48:32 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-07-19 8:48:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Frank and Dotcom, no kidding!
I love it that the Clintoon Team got caught (again), but I also wondered what the destroyed documents said about our security that I have no doubt we need to know!
Sure, Berger should do hard time, but then so should his master, Billary.

Posted by Jen 2004-07-19 8:49:20 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-07-19 8:49:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Damn Proud American,Yes.

Frank G,Berger is a Democrat,the press will ignore this.

Posted by Stephen 2004-07-19 8:52:31 PM|| 2004-07-19 8:52:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Probably embarassing parts for the Clinton Admin, is my guess. Then the coverup starts, and rather than be embarassed, all hell breaks loose over the improper handling of classified material. Berger will take the fall, etc etc. and Bubba will be clean. That is my 70% probability view. *sigh* We are now as a nation paying for the sins of these asshats.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-19 8:53:30 PM|| 2004-07-19 8:53:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 DPA - I dunno - I'm truly dumbstruck by this. There is no latitude or wiggle room for plundering, pillaging, whatever the National Security Archives. Is there anything anyone could do, short of a foreign power attacking the US, which is more dangerous?

I sure hope there was a fiche or computerized archival system (such as the one I designed for the fucking Saudis waay back in '92) behind these physical documents. Scan in a lossless format and burn to CDR (write only) - very easy to do. Here's how 46 states handle the matter. No telling what he "cleaned" from the Archives. Just mind boggling. I never thought Burger was an asshole - he even put Dickie Clarke in a bind a few times, but this is simply criminal.

Posted by .com 2004-07-19 9:05:29 PM|| 2004-07-19 9:05:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I agree with Stephen. We'll be lucky if this makes p.20 of Pravda -- I mean, the NYT -- or WaPo.

Posted by Infidel Bob 2004-07-19 9:06:44 PM|| 2004-07-19 9:06:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I've got $20 that says it's news even in the MSM. They'll try and downplay it, but how do they explain away this:

Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly removed handwritten notes he had taken from classified anti-terror documents he reviewed at the National Archives by sticking them in his jacket and pants. He also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio, they said.

where else did he stick documents, LOL, in his underwear? This sounds like Clouseau trying to smuggle out info...

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-19 9:11:22 PM|| 2004-07-19 9:11:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 It's on Fox right now - Hannity & Colmes. Peter Hoekstra, R Mi, agrees this is a huge issue, if true. That's at least not a white-wash and from someone who can initiate or support action. Also running Berger story on the marquee at bottom of the screen.

Posted by .com 2004-07-19 9:16:33 PM|| 2004-07-19 9:16:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Michael Savage is all over this right now too. Questions that need to be answered.

Why did you take those documents. Were you told or asked to take them, if so by who? What was the reason you took them? What exactly was on the documents you misplaced? When did you misplaced them. Where were you when you misplaced them. Did anybody else see or handle any of the documents, if so you are they? Was anybody aware that you had taken documents?

Get this guy in public and get some answers. I'm very pissed about this.

Kills me that some lose their houses for doing their crime, Others get Larry King and a book deal.

Posted by Lucky 2004-07-19 9:17:54 PM|| 2004-07-19 9:17:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Drudge headline:

Clinton, Kerry Adviser Probed After Taking Home 'Highly Classified' Terror Memos -- And Losing Them!

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-19 9:32:43 PM|| 2004-07-19 9:32:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm not even sure that his previous security clearance was intact. It's likely that he was given the clearance by the 9/11 ~~Commission~~ Circus.

The good news is that this is, indeed, under investigation by the Fibbies. And searching for stuff, determining whassup - after the crime, is their forte'. If he's dirty, he's toast. THEN the press can go wild about the persecution of this fine American. Wotta an asshole - I hope they burn his ass to a crisp. And fuck the MSM, lol! Almost forgot that part, heh.

Posted by .com 2004-07-19 9:39:24 PM|| 2004-07-19 9:39:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 My opinion as to what happened/will happen, FWIW ...

Sandy was sent to purposely intercept something that was known to be politically damaging to members of the previous administration. He will brush off the missing doco as "nothing critical to national security, but 'potentially embarrassing'" (watch for that choice of words) to President Clinton, et al.

The investigation will be carried out, the hammer will drop, Sandy will take the fall ... and the whole time, the question of what was actually in those documents will be ignored. Another gleaming success for politics-by-distraction!

Now, I hope .com is right about there being an electronic storage of everything ... but my gut instinct is that there are still things that are available as hardcopy only as a way to ensure the security of those documents.

Posted by ExtremeModerate 2004-07-19 9:52:55 PM|| [http://www.mwgames.com] 2004-07-19 9:52:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 He did this accidently through sloppiness. Don't Leahy and his staff do the same thing on purpose?

At least the housekeeping staff at the White Hoise was thoroughly vetted and reliable during the Clinton years. With all the FBI background briefs, intelligence reports and White Water billing reecords lying about among the pizza boxes, cigars butts and used condoms, the garbage man could have had enough of an intelligence windfall to retire to the Caymans with his pockets full of wan.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-07-19 10:00:05 PM|| 2004-07-19 10:00:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 EM - What you say certainly rings true - and I've never been a Clinton Conspiracist... But I have to wonder: How many people have taken a "fall" of some sort for the Clintons? Jail time, suicide / murder, lost careers in Govt, the whole nine yards. Anybody here deep into this topic? Mebbe you could provide some numbers? If you're right, EM, it's yet another individual biting the bullet for them. There must be some very big bucks behind them - and some hefty bank accounts waiting for these people... at least those who're still alive to spend it. Boggles.

Posted by .com 2004-07-19 10:01:07 PM|| 2004-07-19 10:01:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 How did they know they were missing?

Was Sandy acting suspicious?

Did the current admin let him hang himself?

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-07-19 10:01:25 PM|| 2004-07-19 10:01:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 When I was informed by the Archives that there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had except for a few document that I apparently had accidentally discarded," he said.

And how were the TOP SECRET documents discarded? In the trash? Obviously had Sandy shredded them, he would have noticed the big TOP SECRET on each page and might have suspected that he shouldn't be destroying them. He should do hard time.

Posted by RWV 2004-07-19 10:11:36 PM|| 2004-07-19 10:11:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 "...every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced..."

Depends on what the meaning of 'document' is, no doubt.

Posted by Pappy 2004-07-19 10:16:39 PM|| 2004-07-19 10:16:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Oh, but, .com ... money isn't needed for the "true believer"(tm) ...

And, remember, that for the "true believer" (tm), the only thing important is a return to power for those willing/able to wield it ... such as someone with last name "Clinton". ;-)

Posted by ExtremeModerate 2004-07-19 10:20:56 PM|| [http://www.mwgames.com] 2004-07-19 10:20:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Lol, EM, you're dead right! *slaps forehead*

2008! Lol! I bow to your political insight! I'd still demand big bux, but to be called back to serve in some capacity in the New Clinton Admin. Freakin' brilliant! Power is, indeed, the ultimate aphrodesiac!

EM, ya rock!

Posted by .com 2004-07-19 10:25:22 PM|| 2004-07-19 10:25:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 This isn't going to go away easily... the networks are starting to pick it up and Drudge is all over it.

This just sounds so insane I don't even know what to think. Why would berger risk commiting such a serious crime to protect clinton's ass? Maybe he was protecting his own ass?

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-07-19 10:48:06 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-07-19 10:48:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Was just at Pejmanesque and he had posted this from USA Today:

...Why were the media so willing to believe Wilson when he was an obvious Democratic partisan? He not only worked for the National Security Council in the Clinton White House, he also is a foreign policy adviser to the Democratic presidential campaign of John Kerry. Why, indeed?...

Now that Berger's busted, anyone else getting a coincidence thought?

2 of Kerry's foreign policy advisors gone.

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-07-19 10:48:21 PM|| 2004-07-19 10:48:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 This is freakin' unreal.

Posted by John 2004-07-19 11:18:55 PM|| 2004-07-19 11:18:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 The documents seem to have included info on port and airport security.Speculation includes documents may have listed recommendations that if carried out might have prevented 9/11,or dealt w/severe problems w/Boston airport.If so,this would explain why Clinton NSA Advisor tried to sneak the info out.If that's case and Republicans can keep in news for a couple of weeks,that kills Kerry's convention.Which is why I expect major press to try to bury story by weekend.

Posted by Stephen 2004-07-19 11:53:36 PM|| 2004-07-19 11:53:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 A2U, ran a couple of libraries of that type. We used recipe cards as it was the early 90's - maybe they still do. An audit would have been required for all signed out material. His signature was on the cards for the missing material.

Gary Aldritch made it pretty clear that other presidents would have terminated many Clinton White House staffers based on on background checks. I alwaysd thought the higher lelvels appointees would have An understanding that copying notes from Top Secret documents onto yellow stickies was an extremely bad idea.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-07-20 12:14:19 AM|| 2004-07-20 12:14:19 AM|| Front Page Top

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