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2003-07-18 Middle East

Al-Aqsa Brigades to Arafat: Dismantle Abbas government

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Posted by Steve White 2003-07-18 1:41:27 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It has been speculated elsewhere that this is what Sharon is waiting for. That the roadmap was not another no win situation for Israel. If the Al Aqsa brigade succeeds in destroying the Abbas government, it proves to the world that the Palestinians are not ready for a state of their own. If Abbas succeeds, he proves himself to be a partner in peace that Israel can work with. Either way, Israel wins. The only way the Paleos win is if Al-Aqsa fails.

Posted by Be 2003-7-18 4:17:20 AM|| 2003-7-18 4:17:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The absolute best thing that could happen is for Bush to come to the obvious conclusion that the concept of a Palestine is a feverish wet dream by Arafat commies; and that the Palestinians will most likely never be ready for sovreignity under Arafat

Posted by badanov 2003-7-18 7:50:28 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2003-7-18 7:50:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I agree Badanov, but this has been blindingly obvious for years and Team Bush continues to stumble down the roadmap.

Posted by Douglas De Bono 2003-7-18 8:34:53 AM|| [http://www.DouglasDeBono.com] 2003-7-18 8:34:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 It's the briar patch. They were bitching and moaning and demanding their road map for a year, and Bush made sure it was put together by the Quartet, not by a GS-5 in the bowels of the State Department. Now they've got it and they don't want it -- but if Yasser cuts Abbas, he's further isolated himself. Bush (and probably Sharon) will extend the isolation to cover all of the Paleo apparatus. The only options left will be to recognize a pretender "government", and they'll be able to hand-pick who goes into it, or to dump the Paleos in their entirety -- give Gaza to Egypt and most of the West Bank to Jordan, not their either country will take either hellhole.

Posted by Fred 2003-7-18 10:04:55 AM|| 2003-7-18 10:04:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 This is GREAT news, IMHO. Al-Aqsa is inhabited by radical Islamists embued with a two-year old toddler's sense of entitlement to anything and everything that they demand. That sense leads them to voice those demands and thus unerringly reveal their inner agendas. They are mentally incapable of engaging brain before putting mouth in gear.

Has the cooperation of the P.A. security forces been complete, total, and enthusiastic? Hell no. Have they been doing SOMETHING? Yes, though they can do a damned lot more. What little they're going, however, is making Al-Aqsa squeal like the little piggy that ran aaaalllll the way home.

I'm between Be and Douglas: The current roadmap is not anywhere near the best, but its having some salutary effect if it has set in motion circumstances that has set Al-Aqsa a-howling.

And I never rule out a multi-layered ploy on the part of Dubya: Do NOT play poker with the man. You have been warned.

Posted by Ptah 2003-7-18 10:15:37 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2003-7-18 10:15:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Doug - It has been obvious to Rantburgers and others paying attention but it has not been obvious to Europe, the left, Russia, etc. Like the UN's uselessness, Bush has had to follow a path that makes it clear to these other people what's going on so he can act accordingly.

Posted by AWW 2003-7-18 10:24:02 AM|| 2003-7-18 10:24:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 AWW:...and, at least, he's gotta look like he gives a shit about these troglodytes.

Posted by tu3031 2003-7-18 10:36:03 AM|| 2003-7-18 10:36:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Well said Ptah, but I need to make one correction to your statement.

As the proud father of a two year-old toddler, I can testify to the fact that although she hasn't quite worked out the concept of ownership and entitlement yet, she's far more advanced than these yutzes. And, when she does need convincing that the toy she's playing with belongs to the kid whose house we're visiting, she'll comply with reason. This may result in a little temporary pouting, but she doesn't start lobbing grenades at the host's grandparents. Minutes later, the kids are playing again, like it never happened.

Posted by Dripping Sarcasm 2003-7-18 11:00:15 AM|| 2003-7-18 11:00:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 DS - "she'll comply with reason..." heh, heh.

That sounds good, but we both know she's got the game down cold: if she plays along with you, then you'll be proud of her - and she's scored some major points with the Giant who has money and drives. She'll cash 'em in at the most opportune time...

Posted by PD 2003-7-18 2:26:36 PM|| 2003-7-18 2:26:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Dripping Sarcasm---Don't teach your toddler about hand grenades until she is older. I did not teach my son about grenades until he was more mature, about 6 years old. Just kidding, heh heh. I wish that the paleos taught their kids good things at an early age so they could look at their options a little more rationally.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-7-18 2:50:39 PM|| 2003-7-18 2:50:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I've HAD two toddlers, so I know whereof I speak.

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