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2006-07-11 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Shealing Thretle4544 2006-07-11 07:23|| || Front Page|| [11124 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Presoaking in superglue is crucial.

Posted by ed 2006-07-11 08:45|| 2006-07-11 08:45|| Front Page Top

#2 I would pay good money to see the looks on the Islamic faces when that happened.

Posted by DarthVader 2006-07-11 09:25|| 2006-07-11 09:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Y'know, leaving pig's heads and shot-up Korans at the local mosque accomplishes about as much as punching a wasp's nest. I'll be interested to see when someone sneaks up properly with a can of Raid, cuz someone is gonna do it. And I'll be curious to see what happens after that.

Posted by Hupinens Ulomble6807 2006-07-11 09:35|| 2006-07-11 09:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Watch out, offending muslims is illegal.
Try pissing off white christians, that's ok.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-07-11 11:05|| 2006-07-11 11:05|| Front Page Top

#5 "It's very encouraging," said Abdi Sheikh, who is the administrative head of the mosque and works as a case management supervisor at Catholic Charities. "It's a show of support, and we appreciate all of that."

WTF? I would've assumed that the Catholic Charities would've required that you be either: (1) Catholic, or (2) at least a claimed Christian to work there. Now they're hiring muslims? Good grief, this kum-by-yah, "Why can't we all just get along" crap has gotta stop. Weren't there numerous articles about the Somalis showing up in Maine being (at least some of them) known jihadis? And, now we're gonna have an "inter-faith" rally for these goons? Osama and Zawahiri must be laughing from their caves now, as we show how "sensitive" we are.

Posted by BA 2006-07-11 11:09|| 2006-07-11 11:09|| Front Page Top

#6 If you don't like seeing bits of a perfectly legal animal then move to a country that bans pork.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-07-11 11:35|| 2006-07-11 11:35|| Front Page Top

#7 BA, nope, they can't require that, especially if they are getting any kind of federal funds.

I volunteered at Jewish Family and Childrens' Services a ways back, and they had staff members who weren't Jewish, either. No one made any big deal about it....I wished them Happy Chanukah and Passover, they wished me Merry Christmas and Happy Easter (no lame "Happy Holidays" there). It was really no big deal.

Same thing with the clientele. They couldn't require that someone getting help be a member of the Jewish faith, but there was no real problem with them saying the services they provided were in line with Jewish religious traditions. You don't like that....go somewhere else.

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-07-11 11:41|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-07-11 11:41|| Front Page Top

#8 SB, Jewish and Christian are religions. Islam is a bloodthirsty death cult. You are comparing apples and turds here.

Posted by wxjames 2006-07-11 12:32|| 2006-07-11 12:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Cute, wxjames, but even though the reasons why anyone would follow the incoherent ramblings of an illiterate trader who married well in 7th century Arabia are a mystery to me too, it's still considered a religion.

And in some cases regrettably, they are able to exercise their "religious freedom" to call for the destruction of all we hold dear, and the imposition of the same idiotic system that made their homelands such beacons of humanity (/sarcasm off).

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-07-11 12:47|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-07-11 12:47|| Front Page Top

#10 Actually, DB, private groups like that are allowed to "discriminate" on their members as needed (I assume with the exception you noted of receiving Federal Tax $). In other words, would the Young Republicans be forced to accept Democrats into their ranks? Would a Gay/Lesbian/Whatever group be required to allow straight hetero Christians? I think not. Anti discrimination laws really only deal with public entities (or publically funded entities), and businesses.

Posted by BA 2006-07-11 13:27|| 2006-07-11 13:27|| Front Page Top

#11 BA, I wasn't addressing private groups. You were asking about charitable organizations, specifically regarding Catholic Charities. That's what my answer was about....charitable groups that take Federal money (almost all of them do, especially now).

Catholic Charities certainly does take Federal money. I haven't heard of a chapter that didn't, and I was raised Catholic. It may be for only one little tiny program, but that's enough to require them to have an anti-discrimination policy for who they serve with social programs. (Most religions do that anyway....it's good PR.)

Since Mr Abdi Sheik is paid staff, there are employment laws they have to abide by that would protect that guy from discrimination based on his religion. Assuming the post he is in has nothing to do with actual witnessing of the faith, the argument that he has to be Catholic to do his job isn't going to fly with the EEOC (plus, not knowing the gentleman discussed in the article, maybe he was the best applicant for the job. Neither of us sat in on the interview, so we'll never know for sure.)

In most other cases, private groups can do what they want as far as membership goes. That's why, for example, an alumni group for Harvard doesn't have to take in Yalies, and an Italian-American group doesn't have to take in Eskimos.

That's another reason those organizations mainly, if not exclusively, have unpaid staff. They can then have directors from their own group and exclude others. Chapters, anyway. National HQ can be different. Say we're still talking about a group of Harvard alumni. Make part of their jobs recruiting for their alma mater, and you have a good case as to why John Q Public who went to the local state college isn't really qualified to discuss the advantages of going to Harvard to interested prospects.....how the hell would he really know, since he doesn't have direct experience with the dorms, professors, and all their hallowed traditions? It's the same reason you don't see Chinese spokesmen for the NAACP, etc.

(Yes, spent too much time with labor laws regarding this topic in my past. Urk.)

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-07-11 14:13|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-07-11 14:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Catholic Charities is the largest importer of Somalis into the US. The US government pays them millions $ each year to do it (in addition to paying the Somalis).

Posted by ed 2006-07-11 15:10|| 2006-07-11 15:10|| Front Page Top

#13 Im afraid that I disagree that a charitable group can take "government" money.

No real charity should accept money extorted from others.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-07-11 15:13|| 2006-07-11 15:13|| Front Page Top

#14 Al this is well, and would work fine, except one very holy religion Islam teaches it's members that it is their duty to kill non-believers.

Therefore, the US Congress itself should pursue this debate. That's what they are elected for.
Islam's status as a religion is questionable.
Pig heads before action ! (bumper slogan)

Posted by wxjames 2006-07-11 15:14|| 2006-07-11 15:14|| Front Page Top

#15 #9 SB.

Render? Into? Ceasar?

Posted by gromgoru 2006-07-11 16:29|| 2006-07-11 16:29|| Front Page Top

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