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2006-07-08 China-Japan-Koreas

Australia gives North Korea a blunt warning

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Posted by Fred 2006-07-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11139 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It's entirely possible that China's angry dog prompted Taiwan's recent announcement concerning test-firing a missile of its own. Clearly, this is aimed squarely at the Chicoms.

Posted by doc 2006-07-08 09:10|| 2006-07-08 09:10|| Front Page Top

#2 I can't imagine the Taiwanese didn't have an implicit nod that we'd have their back either. Good work boys, that'll tighten sphincters in Beijing.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-07-08 09:52|| 2006-07-08 09:52|| Front Page Top

#3 You want to see pucker? Wait till the surprise launch of the Chrysanthemum IIIa (MIRV) from out of absolute nowhere.

Posted by 6 2006-07-08 10:11|| 2006-07-08 10:11|| Front Page Top

#4 The Japanese developed lots of technology for WWII that was quite original. I'd look for something in the death ray area.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-08 10:13|| 2006-07-08 10:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Unfortunately the Norks copy a lot of WWII Japanese tech such as: hole, aircraft bomb, soldier, and hammer = antitank mine.

Posted by ed 2006-07-08 10:17|| 2006-07-08 10:17|| Front Page Top

#6 "How can a country that can barely feed its people afford such a weapons program, he railed."
Not even "barely" -- they subsist only due to the outside food aid that is given to them.

Posted by Darrell 2006-07-08 10:52|| 2006-07-08 10:52|| Front Page Top

#7 we give them a blunt warning... right before we offer them billions worth of low-cost coal subsidised by me, the Australian TAXPAYER if they do the right thing and be a good little North Korea.

Kim Jong Il is laughing to himself while the Western world gives him bribes to be good.

We should just ignore his sabre rattling but let him know if he hits a Western city, we nuke his entire country off the map.

Simple, really.

Posted by Anon1 2006-07-08 10:53|| 2006-07-08 10:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh boy. I'll be sorry for this, I'm sure... But there's too much stale pablum and hand-wringing here for my taste. A little bit of weekend opining to clear the palate.

This has gone on at least three or four decades too long. During that time, this grotesque little tyranny has actually become dangerous to someone other than Seoul and the fools in the South who are so schizophrenic about the North that they've given the rest of us a case of their mental paralysis.

This situation is a perfect example of the frog (us) sitting in the water while the temperature has slowly increased to the point of jump or accept having the perfect form of unrelenting blackmail and mass death in the hands of insane freaks - and their masters. As for the masters, does anyone need to be told who they are? They have waged an incredibly successful disinformation campaign against us for 60 years. And we've seen our institutions take up their cause as the traitors and idealists have aged into positions of authority and social influence in our country. We can see, with startling clarity today, Stalin's designs come to fruition.

Truly no offense intended, Anon1, but waiting until the insanity of Kim Jong Il, or one of the assholes who back him - y'know, the guys with more medals than neurons who applaud his every breath and dream of replacing him, breaks out of the box and kills someone is almost as nuts as he is. Please forgive me. If you happen to be who the freaks finally vaporize as proof that they don't have tiny dicks and we are weak, well, I think my point is a bit clearer.

And it just gets worse every day. It's nuts to allow the whores of Moscow and Beijing to triangulate the world with this freak regime. Islam is onboard simply because of convenience. They have risen to renew their campaign to dominate the world because of oil wealth, nothing more. Well, there's an answer for that, as well, if we have the courage to take it.

One thing at a time? Okay, LOL, here's #1.

1a. North Korea. Go ahead and kill it. Decimate the whole thing on a grid. If Seoul gets wasted then they've had it coming for the entire time they've supported this abomination and helped to guarantee its survival. Too hardcore for you? Unless someone has a foolproof scheme for how to completely disarm and dismantle this freak regime any other way - then we're wasting time. And that is solely to the advantage of the freaks.

It's a mixed bag of grief, that's certain, but most of that is self-inflicted stupidity, from Clinton to the idiots in Seoul. Now that the danger extends beyond the fools in the South, the time has come to stop the incremental bullshit and do what was taken off the table bit by bit, leaving us in this dangerous impasse: it cannot be allowed to exist any longer.

Another bit of hardcore truth is that the fall and dissolution of the USSR was a fluke, not a model for how to make the world safe for those who love freedom. It is blinding us and making things worse with every passing day. North Korea won't implode on its own. Its people are terminally screwed, certainly, but as a freak regime which is universally dangerous to the world, it's insane to hope for implosion before it decides to take someone else out. In fact, you can bet that if they detect their demise approaches, they will lose any reason to do otherwise.

1b. Ramp up production of every type of munition needed for regime-killing. Wartime pace.

1c. State Department. Mass firing. Turn the whole thing out and start from scratch.

1d. CIA / Homeland Security / Blah blah blah. I guess we'll have to limp along here, "killing" leakers and those with a private "Foreign Policy" as we find them.

1e. Leaks and the "press". Full-court press. Trials for everyone involved. The laws are there, use them in every way possible to end this, the most insane of all the threats, the most successful aspect of Stalinism.

1f. The UN. Cut funding to 191th (or is it 192th?) of the budget. Keep our seat. Veto everything.

2. Iran. All leadership sites and Military HQs and Basij centers. All of them. The very minute the munitions inventories are deemed adequate for the 100% Leadership and Retaliation Decimation Plan. Without warning. Takes Syria out of the terror game. It will help immensely in Iraq, though I doubt that most of the Iraqi Ministers will be happy about having to live on their government salaries alone. It has been pointed out here that this is not nearly as hard as the fool pundits suggest, as all of the facilities do not need to be hit, just as many as we are certain of - and all of the utilities that allow them to function. Oh, and their storage of gas.

3. Saudi Arabia. You know what needs to be done. Old hat, here, and the only thing I can see that takes any number boots on the ground. And I think Pakistan would quickly implode without the Saudis propping parts of them up. Far more chiefs than indians in that hellhole, so they'd be internally-focused for a long time, but take out everything associated with nukes. I'd feel really bad if Khan and his friends were decimated in the "confusion".

4. Russia. China. Neither will lift a finger because they're not ready. I don't want to ever see them become ready, again - in the case of Russia, either. Both are very vulnerable to financial attack. I don;t much care whether we wear a Cheshire smile - or state it plainly -- To Their People: You are led by crooks and thieves. We are sorry, but fuck you. If you decide to hang them, fine by us. We'll be watching. Losers.

Hell, it's time for a return to TDR. We've tried the State Department and UN style idiocy - the route championed by the Stalinist traitors within - and it has led to this moment. None of the current threats had to be allowed to become so. It is the wildly foolish and dangerous outcome that should've been obvious, had we not allowed ourselves to be blinded by socialist disinformation and the unchecked seepage of PCism into our system. Because it has gone on far too long, the remedy will be all the more shocking, but no less necessary.

The pot's boiling.

Okay, I'm done. Mmmmm. Tasty.

Posted by flyover 2006-07-08 18:14|| 2006-07-08 18:14|| Front Page Top

#9 Is that you, .com?

Posted by Darrell 2006-07-08 19:37|| 2006-07-08 19:37|| Front Page Top

#10 Nah. Not enough "fuck you and the horse you rode in on" to be .com. Just a blog acolyte who reads a lot and tries to make sense of it, like everybody else, Darrell. Hey, you sound as much like him, minus the "fuck this" and "fuck that", as I do, brother. By the way, I like your comments - and that's no shit.

As for the expletives sometimes nothing else will do, though, so some of it creeps into my comments occasionally. I'm sorry for that. I'd like to see this, with some of his choice flavoring tidbits tossed in, re-written in real .com style. It'd be heavier on the Islamonazis, conain some hunter - killer teams, and be a barn-burner, instead of a dud.

As it is, it doesn't seem to matter much as it only generated mild curiosity. And, further along that line of thought, sorry to have wasted the bandwidth.

Omega Man is on the tube. L8r.

Posted by flyover 2006-07-08 19:57|| 2006-07-08 19:57|| Front Page Top

#11 Flyover, that was superb!

Unfortunately, I can't see your scenario unfolding in the next 10 years unless something happens to precipitate it. And whatever does precipitate it is going to be very nasty indeed. At the moment America is fighting a rich mans war, but the cheaper option is always there. I don't think enough people realise that - we seem to be sleep-walking into a time where entire countries could be wiped from the map, and the only people who are really trying to stop that happening are derided as fascists, imperialists or criminals. I think we're living in Heinlein's 'Crazy Years'.

You sure you're not .com with another handle? ;)

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-07-08 19:58|| 2006-07-08 19:58|| Front Page Top

#12 heh heh - flyover - you and I think a lot alike....I even have Omega Man on DVD...
and Soylent Green :-)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-07-08 20:26|| 2006-07-08 20:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Tony (UK) - Heston's found his hot momma and they're escaping by motorcycle, LOL. Off to meet the underground and work on the cure.

Thanks for the compliment. That was an executive summary (LOL, man I've written a LOT of them!) of what I read at the good places like Rantburg... at least the stuff that resonates with me and fits with my personal experience and understanding. I certainly know Stalinism and propaganda.

I'm afraid you're right - in almost everything you said. There are sane people all over, thank God, I just wish we could concentrate here and regain full control of our institutions. I often wonder if that is the only way to reverse the slide of the west.

You're dead right about Heinlein, LOL.

I'm not sure what to make of this .com hunt and I can't prove a negative. No offense, but it seems silly. You people post solid info everyday. I like to summarize for my own benefit, and posting that sort of stuff (by anyone) seems to bring out these "sightings". No offense to .com and his fire and brimstone posts, but you people are doing just fine - you're posting the righteous truth.

Posted by flyover 2006-07-08 20:39|| 2006-07-08 20:39|| Front Page Top

#14 Flyover, you're dead right - there's a tremendous amount of good stuff posted here. I use the site to get the real skinny on events (I lost faith in the MSM just under 5 years ago...) and then to inform my mates about what's really going on. Sadly, they're just happy to lap up the Stalinist Gramscian shite coming from the BBC or Al-Grauniad. I think we just have to keep reminding ourselves that there are a lot of sane people left, who understand what's at stake. This is good.

As for .com, it's just I've been away from the 'burg for a few months and missed his insightful comments. You're quite right that there are a lot of people here who know what's going on, and that's also a good thing.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-07-08 20:53|| 2006-07-08 20:53|| Front Page Top

#15 Frank G - :) I don't have many DVD's, but everything hits cable sooner or later, LOL.

Posted by flyover 2006-07-08 20:54|| 2006-07-08 20:54|| Front Page Top

#16 were iz .com? whyz he not heer aneemore?

Posted by muck4doo 2006-07-08 20:58|| http://evolvedamnyou.blogspot.com/]">[http://evolvedamnyou.blogspot.com/] 2006-07-08 20:58|| Front Page Top

#17 muck - we don't know, and many who communicated in privated with PD/.com haven't heard anything in reply. Happy wishes aside, we fear for the worst while hoping for the best. It saddens me more than I can say. Lucky, .com.... originals who can never be replaced...speaking of which, Muckster.....stay with us... :-)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-07-08 21:02|| 2006-07-08 21:02|| Front Page Top

#18 well. ima hope we heer sumthin soon. miss both lucky and .com

ima thawt lucky wuz doin better after hiz illnes

Posted by muck4doo 2006-07-08 21:07|| http://evolvedamnyou.blogspot.com/]">[http://evolvedamnyou.blogspot.com/] 2006-07-08 21:07|| Front Page Top

#19 I'm not sure what to make of this .com hunt and I can't prove a negative. No offense, but it seems silly.

The only reason we're lookin for .com is he knows where Lucky Guy is.

Posted by 6 2006-07-08 21:19|| 2006-07-08 21:19|| Front Page Top

#20 ima miss there input.

Posted by muck4doo 2006-07-08 21:58|| http://evolvedamnyou.blogspot.com/]">[http://evolvedamnyou.blogspot.com/] 2006-07-08 21:58|| Front Page Top

#21 yes we do. I can do snark, but it's a pale resemblance to the masters.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-07-08 22:42|| 2006-07-08 22:42|| Front Page Top

#22 flyove, I suspect you won't see my comment because it's so late, but an elegant summary of ideal solutions. I fear we won't see any of it, because your suggestions are straightforward and unnuanced, and too many of the people involved in making things happen have a major investment in proving how intelligent they are, hence nuanced and non-straightforward, darn it!

Clearly you aren't .com, however much we miss him. I imagine he will announce himself when he is ready to return -- the nic was about as anonymous as the man was willing to be... although I wouldn't want to be the person who tried to break through whatever defences he might have put around his computer. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-07-08 23:57|| 2006-07-08 23:57|| Front Page Top

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