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2023-07-03 -Land of the Free
General Dynamics to Compete for Contract Worth Billions to Replace Bradley Fighting Vehicle
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Posted by Frank G 2023-07-03 06:28|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 "[GD] to compete..."

LOL, "compete". Sure, sure.
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-07-03 07:24||   2023-07-03 07:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Of course, of course.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-07-03 08:51||   2023-07-03 08:51|| Front Page Top

#3 Autonomous functions? Robot driven, robot personnel? Must be, otherwise the vehicle will be obsolete.
Posted by Tarzan Grolump8219 2023-07-03 09:14||   2023-07-03 09:14|| Front Page Top

#4 How long until the AI robots unionize?
Posted by Glenmore  2023-07-03 09:30||   2023-07-03 09:30|| Front Page Top

#5 I am leaning toward the Israeli practice of using tank hulls for AFV's.
Posted by Silentbrick 2023-07-03 09:41||   2023-07-03 09:41|| Front Page Top

#6 I am leaning toward the Israeli practice of using tank hulls for AFV's.

I am leaning toward the Ukraine practice of using tank hulls forIED's.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-07-03 10:02||   2023-07-03 10:02|| Front Page Top

#7 include a 50-millimeter turret-mounted gun

The company just did its first torture test of the prototype last month. They expected some hang ups as they are still getting the bugs out with jams or software goofs.

To their surprise, it rattled off 500 rounds nonstop without a single issue.

Next up they will put it on some type of chassis and see if it works bouncing around a field.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-07-03 10:54||   2023-07-03 10:54|| Front Page Top

#8 $45 billion

However, you are unwilling and incapable of defending our own southern border. Why do you exist? /rhet question
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-07-03 13:56||   2023-07-03 13:56|| Front Page Top

#9 ...include a 50-millimeter turret-mounted gun
WTF? The M4 Sherman had a 75mm gun because a 56mm shell just doesn't have enough volume for an effective HE charge. Besides the larger the calibre the fewer the shells that can be packed in the vehicle and remember there are still supposed to be infantry dismounts, yes? Are we reprising the movie The Pentagon Wars(1998) ??
Posted by magpie 2023-07-03 14:53||   2023-07-03 14:53|| Front Page Top

#10 @magpie

That is currently what is needed to punch through IVF and AFV currently. The old 30mm Bushmaster just isn't enough anymore to get the job done (unless you run Russian or North Korean versions). Would you rather have 250 rounds that reach out farther and gets a kill with a couple shots, or 500 rounds that don't reach as far and are as effective as a spitball?
Posted by DarthVader 2023-07-03 15:40||   2023-07-03 15:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Funny, my comment keeps getting spamcopped for some reason
Posted by magpie 2023-07-03 18:20||   2023-07-03 18:20|| Front Page Top

#12 ??
Posted by Frank G 2023-07-03 19:35||   2023-07-03 19:35|| Front Page Top

#13 There are words you can't use. Copy your comment to the clipboard and try altering words you think (should know by now if you are a regular) are the offenders.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-07-03 19:39||   2023-07-03 19:39|| Front Page Top

#14 Alternative spellings?
"That foking 50mm is too golldarn short on range and shallow on load."
Posted by Skidmark 2023-07-03 19:42||   2023-07-03 19:42|| Front Page Top

#15 Pr0n. T0rd@do.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-07-03 19:43||   2023-07-03 19:43|| Front Page Top

#16 Re: #11.
Infantry Fighting Vehicle vs. a mini-Tank? The 50mm cannon seems a classic road to the Program being cancelled for producing a vehicle that is too big, too heavy and too expensive for its role. Add some Javelin-like missile tubes if some longer-ranged firepower is needed and keep a smaller weapon with lots of ammunition (while leaving enough room for the dismounts).
Posted by magpie 2023-07-03 20:07||   2023-07-03 20:07|| Front Page Top

#17 That read fine?
Posted by Frank G 2023-07-03 20:10||   2023-07-03 20:10|| Front Page Top

#18 Re: #11.
What I would want is one of Bolo Mk.37 *Grin*. Why kill when you can overkill?

...maybe this was what got spamcopped? Okay, does it hate Roman Numeral '37' for *cough* reasons...
Posted by magpie 2023-07-03 20:10||   2023-07-03 20:10|| Front Page Top

#19 Yeah, Frank G, it really doesn't like X_X_X without the blanks. Seems rather obvious once I look at it.
Posted by magpie 2023-07-03 20:13||   2023-07-03 20:13|| Front Page Top

#20 learning curve. I've been here since the start and still on it
Posted by Frank G 2023-07-03 20:15||   2023-07-03 20:15|| Front Page Top

#21 I consider it a fun game when one of my comments doesn't take.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-07-03 20:18||   2023-07-03 20:18|| Front Page Top

#22 Yeah, getting around the spam filter is a fun game :)

The 50mm will be in the next version of whatever IFV/AFV and it will be the XM193 at this point. The real challenge will be to make a vehicle that can deliver more than the old Bradley can and that is where programs will die. They will have the gun, replacement to the TOW-2 and active defense systems.

The real challenge will be getting a cheap and effective drone killer in some form.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-07-03 22:35||   2023-07-03 22:35|| Front Page Top

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