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2007-06-29 Home Front: Politix
Immigration Bill Failure Proves Rasmussen’s First Law of Politics
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Posted by tu3031 2007-06-29 10:59|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 The United States is a nation of immigrants.

It was also a nation of slavery. And given the inaction and complicity of the ruling class in the beltway, they have permitted its de facto return. This was just an effort to cover up that massive political failure.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-06-29 11:16||   2007-06-29 11:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Someplace here on the 'Burg there is a link to the debate between Tony Snow and Laura Ingraham. Snow flatly comes out and admits that the enforcement law we got with Simpson-Mazzoli in 1986 was toothless and not even a slap on the wrist. Laura's statement to Snow, which he could never refute, was that the American people weren't buying the WH/Senate BS that "this time it will be different." It was sad to see Snow trying so hard to defend the indefensible. Nothing but strict enforcement of the existing laws will be acceptable to most Americans for a long, long time. I can't think of another issue where trust in government is so abysmally low. Maybe the elite inside the Beltway might start waking up to that fact after this groin-stomping they just got.
Posted by Mac 2007-06-29 12:05||   2007-06-29 12:05|| Front Page Top

#3 This whole "immigration" issue just show how out of touch the elected representatives are with the people. Enforcing the border with existing laws is not rocket science.

The first step we can take is to stop buying "Mexican" labor unless it's in Mexico. I figure the roof I just put on my house cost me an extra few grand but the crew doing it is all US citizens.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-06-29 12:14||   2007-06-29 12:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Instapundit's got the right analysis (but will the politicians listen?):

"My advice for next time:

(1) Make the process open, transparent, and timely, with hearings, drafts on the Internet, and no last-minute bills that no one has read;

(2) Earn people's trust, don't demand it, and treat enforcement like it matters;

(3) Respect people who follow the law, and make legal immigration easier, cheaper, and simpler, rather than the Kafkaesque nightmare it is now;

(4) Don't feel you have to be "comprehensive" -- address the problems you can deal with first. The trust needed to deal with other problems will come later, after you've shown some success and some good faith."
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-06-29 16:32||   2007-06-29 16:32|| Front Page Top

#5 It was also a nation of slavery. And given the inaction and complicity of the ruling class in the beltway, they have permitted its de facto return. This was just an effort to cover up that massive political failure.

Procopius2k, hey God Bless you for recognizing the special interest "indentured servitude" angle.

It's simple, American Citizens are in direct competition with bogus-documented Illegals immigrants here in America. Sad to say some short sighted greedy small businesses and Corporations are willing to go to great lengths and expense to have a perpetual pool of Illegals to exploit for cheap labor.

In fact they bank on in, and plot to keep it that way.

The strategy of the Tyson Chicken[et al], the Corporate Farm Growers, National and Local Chambers of Commerce etc. etc. is to have the numbers on their side. The numbers alone do the trick for them.

Millions of illegals here simply by it'self drive down labor costs, it works the 'slave labor' $$$ machine for them.
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Arriba Muchachos.. el prisa ahora despierta, It's our Citizen Status at stake! The elegant and sublime Citizenship of an American must not and shall not be diluted or discounted on our watch.

For our Citizenship and our children's Citizen Status we must be vigilant...

"From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." - Thomas Jefferson
Posted by RD">RD  2007-06-29 19:19||   2007-06-29 19:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Sock Puppet of Doom,

I salute you for doing the right thing even though it cost you real $$$ up front to do so. Thank You from another Proud American Citizen.
Posted by RD">RD  2007-06-29 19:25||   2007-06-29 19:25|| Front Page Top

#7 This is so basic and Rasmussen hits it on the head (as do the other posters here). No one trusts the gov to enforce the laws. They don't enforce the existing ones so why should anyone believe they are going to enforce the new ones. It is just so much horseshit. It was incredibly obvious that this was a sop to the big money contributors from the ag, building, food processing, hotel and restaurant lobbies (among others). The pols heard an earful from both sides of the political spectrum.

Close the border first...enforce first...build trust...then make reforms as needed.
Posted by remoteman 2007-06-29 19:48||   2007-06-29 19:48|| Front Page Top

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