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2005-06-19 Europe

German defence minister "axed trip to US owing to Rumsfeld snub"

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Posted by Steve White 2005-06-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 That's our Rummy...

No time for ducks, lame ducks, Peking ducks or any other waterfowl either...

Posted by BigEd 2005-06-19 00:19|| 2005-06-19 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 wienerschnitzel and good German beer on the house! BTW Struck You F*ck

Posted by Don Rumsfeld 2005-06-19 00:31|| 2005-06-19 00:31|| Front Page Top

#3 He ordered Berlinâs ambassador to Washington Wolfgang Ischinger to appeal to Rumsfeld for a longer meeting...

Oh, yeah, 'cause Ischinger's our favorite German.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-06-19 01:04|| http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]">[http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2005-06-19 01:04|| Front Page Top

#4 I'd say that 45 minutes with the SecDef of a country seriously fighting the WoT, running jihadi flypaper campaigns in 2 countries, supporting those 2 countries while they take their first steps under a new form of government, and redesigning the global force structure of the US is fairly generous. Given this is someone from a Govt with Shroeder's record and who's on his way out - what's there to talk about? Struck should've been less huffy and full of himself and gone shopping to burn some of those Euros while they're still so overvalued.

Posted by .com 2005-06-19 01:11|| 2005-06-19 01:11|| Front Page Top

#5 what did he hope to gain by announcing to the world that both Kofi and Rumsfeld snubbed him, when he is, in fact, a lame duck?

What's the old saying, never hand someone a whip to beat you with...or something like that..

Posted by 2b 2005-06-19 01:14|| 2005-06-19 01:14|| Front Page Top

#6 If Rummy promised to make him wait in the lobby for an additional 2 hrs and 15 minutes, would that be acceptable?

Y'know, so Rummy could have important meetings with the defense guys from Argentina, Nauru and Swaziland?

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-06-19 09:41|| 2005-06-19 09:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Struck is pushing hard at NATO meetings for removing US nuclear weapons from Ramstein and for a separate EU-level military org in addition to NATO.

Posted by too true 2005-06-19 11:01|| 2005-06-19 11:01|| Front Page Top

#8 And the US (including Rumsfeld) are supposed to be worried about this because....?

Take your ball and stay home, ya' little brat.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-06-19 12:41|| http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com] 2005-06-19 12:41|| Front Page Top

#9 Well maybe don't be too hard on him. He has just announced to send more German troops to Afghanistan, bringing the number up to 3000.

But of course, in September we'll have a new defense minister, probabably Michael Glos, a ranking CSU guy (boss of the CSU in the Bundestag). I know him personally and I guess he'll get along very well with Rummy (and brings the better beer).

Posted by True German Ally 2005-06-19 13:02|| 2005-06-19 13:02|| Front Page Top

#10 Who gives a flyin' fuck what the germans think? They're still our enemies....we just quit shootin' at 'em in 1945.... Fuck 'em all.

Posted by Tom Dooley 2005-06-19 14:02|| 2005-06-19 14:02|| Front Page Top

#11 I do. There are allies among some of the German populace, including longtime Army officers.

Posted by rkb 2005-06-19 14:17|| 2005-06-19 14:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Tom Dooley, German manned AWACS aircraft patrolled US airspace in 2001/2002 during Operation Enduring Freedom.

Thanks for not shooting at them.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-06-19 14:25|| 2005-06-19 14:25|| Front Page Top

#13 TGA, I think you and I both are committed to renewing our alliance and understand that it will take some effort.

Posted by rkb 2005-06-19 14:35|| 2005-06-19 14:35|| Front Page Top

#14 rkb, it will, but come September, with good will on both sides, we'll succeed.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-06-19 14:47|| 2005-06-19 14:47|| Front Page Top

#15 While Schroeder has been a weasel, we must not forget the slightly less than 50% of Germans who are not anti-American. I hope that the relationship can be rebuilt. Phrance on the other hand...

I wish to say thank you to TGA for his reasoned discourse and support for America.

Posted by SR-71 2005-06-19 16:06|| 2005-06-19 16:06|| Front Page Top

#16 The german defense minister....? How many divisions does he have?

Posted by Mark E. 2005-06-19 19:51|| 2005-06-19 19:51|| Front Page Top

#17 Germany hosts two major airbases and, even after troop drawdowns, provides an important staging site for military equipment and troops. Whatever you think about this minister - who distinctly underwhelms me personally - or about future alternatives, for now the value of those bases to us should not be underestimated.

Posted by rkb 2005-06-19 19:59|| 2005-06-19 19:59|| Front Page Top

#18 LOL, #9 TGA.

I don't drink beer, but I understand that it's not too hard to "bring the better beer" if the other party is American. ;-p

The only time I ever regreted that I don't like beer is when I lived in Germany. (But I did take advantage of the wines. :-D)

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-06-19 20:30|| http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com] 2005-06-19 20:30|| Front Page Top

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