Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Tue 06/06/2006 View Mon 06/05/2006 View Sun 06/04/2006 View Sat 06/03/2006 View Fri 06/02/2006 View Thu 06/01/2006 View Wed 05/31/2006
1
2006-06-06 Iraq
In Cold Blood
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Steve 2006-06-06 09:24|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This sort of thing happened again at the end of 1944, during the Battle of the Bulge, when SS troops killed a lot of American prisoners. Retribution was quietly applied.

Like here.
Posted by Snerese Angeang9015 2006-06-06 10:27||   2006-06-06 10:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Open question to the MSM;
Islamic radicals kill about 200 Muslims a day. Last year the number was 100. What difference does it matter if a few Americans retaliate in a world falling into chaos ? What difference can it matter to the countless victims of Islamic brutality ? And, how long do you think you can sweep the truth under the rug ?
There is a world war going on; Free men against Islamic radicals and ultimately, civilization against Islam.
When will the MSM wake up ?
Posted by wxjames 2006-06-06 10:34||   2006-06-06 10:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Two stories I heard while growing up:

1. My buddy Tom's father was in the 101st at Bastogne. In the course of the battle, my Tom's father's unit captured some SS from the same SS unit that was responsible for Malmedy. A couple or three guys were detailed to guard the prisoners, and Tom's father heard them being ordered to "take these prisoners to the collection point and be back in five minutes." The collection point was several miles to the rear, and there was no motor transport available. You do the math.

2. My Dad's division overran part of the Belsen concentration camp in April of 1945. Dad does not talk about this experience much, but he did once tell me that while the camp guards surrendered, his unit didn't take them prisoner.
Posted by Mike 2006-06-06 10:45||   2006-06-06 10:45|| Front Page Top

#4 My Father has told me stories about my Grandfather in WWII. He was in Belgium fighting the Germans, seems the Belgians were trying to play both sides of the game. The Canadian Air Force "accidentally" bombed a few Belgian towns to let them know which side they should be playing for.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-06-06 11:07||   2006-06-06 11:07|| Front Page Top

#5 There was the story of a Waffen SS (ie combattants) unit who, at ythe end of thwar, perhaps after the cease fire, surrendered in the vicinity of a concentration camp. But, the allied soldiers, who just seen the camp, shot them believing they were Totenkopf Verband SS (camp guards).

Now Waffen SS perpetrated many atrocities and there were frequent personal movemnts between the Waffen SS and the Totenkop Verband.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-06-06 11:14||   2006-06-06 11:14|| Front Page Top

#6 My German brother-in-law deserted the Nazis, stole a bicycle and rode across Poland to escape the murderous Russians, only to surrender to the Americans. He is now an American citizen, married to a former WWII bomber pilot's daughter, and very thankful the Americans fed him better than he had growing up. Even with his Nazi Aryan indoctrination, he knew it was his only way to escape sure torture and death.
Posted by Danielle 2006-06-06 11:21||   2006-06-06 11:21|| Front Page Top

#7 JFM: You are referring to Dachau, I think. There's a whole web page on the incident here.
Posted by Mike 2006-06-06 12:18||   2006-06-06 12:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Thank you, Mike.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-06-06 12:26||   2006-06-06 12:26|| Front Page Top

#9 The story I've heard fourth hand is of a German tank crew that miraculously survived the Eastern Front, escaped across Germany to surrender to the western Allies, and promptly had the crap beaten out of them by some Canadians because their tanker uniforms resembled SS uniforms.
Posted by Matt 2006-06-06 14:10||   2006-06-06 14:10|| Front Page Top

#10 You are referring to Dachau, I think.

There's more information linked in comment #1.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2006-06-06 14:58||   2006-06-06 14:58|| Front Page Top

#11 Common stuff.
In Italy, Dad gave some SS prisoners to two soldiers to take behind the lines to a collection point. They returned within 10 mins. Dad looked at them funny, asked if they turned them over, and then took all future prisoners back himself. Of course that meant he lost out on all the good loot like Lugars. Liberating the German's cognac supplies in Trieste kind of made up for all those negative vibes.
Posted by 3dc 2006-06-06 15:26||   2006-06-06 15:26|| Front Page Top

#12 I know 'Nam vets who talk of the same thing wrt vc prisoners. War sucks, but it's not the worst of things. The worse thing in the world imho is somebody who has nothing in which they would fight for.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-06-06 15:44||   2006-06-06 15:44|| Front Page Top

#13 Ever wonder why we didn't have many Japanese soldiers in our POW camps? Maybe it's because we didn't take many Japanes prisoners.

Shoe on the other foot-- Ever wonder why you almost never see a US grunt taken prisoner in Iraq? Maybe it's because our guys are taught to NEVER be taken alive. Actually, there's no 'maybe' about it. They are taught that.
Posted by Parabellum 2006-06-06 19:39||   2006-06-06 19:39|| Front Page Top

23:54 Desert Blondie
23:48 Desert Blondie
23:45 Anonymoose
23:43 Shieldwolf
23:38 ed
23:34 3dc
23:34 ed
23:34 Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo)
23:31 Rafael
23:29 trailing wife
23:29 3dc
23:28 3dc
23:26 Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo)
23:25 3dc
23:21 RD
23:17 JosephMendiola
23:17 Shieldwolf
23:16 Frank G
23:16 trailing wife
23:14 Rafael
23:11 3dc
23:08 Manolo
23:08 trailing wife
23:08 Alaska Paul









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com