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2004-06-18 Arabia

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Posted by Anonymous5089 2004-06-18 1:48:58 PM|| || Front Page|| [11142 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Killed him ya say. Just outright beheaded him. Rest in peace Mr Johnson. Your killers number in the millions.

Islam, SA, thanks for nothing.

Posted by Lucky 2004-06-18 2:33:57 PM|| 2004-06-18 2:33:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 With every barbaric act, these Islamicists are proving themselves unworthy of any type of nationhood. There can be no sympathy for any cause when these are the tactics used. Subhumans.

NOW is someone ready to build that wall of shame we talked about? Put up photos of these Jihadists on a wall for public ridicule and assault. We need to know their faces better-- through tomato mold and spray-painted epithets. Gloves off-let's really piss off the Muslim world. PUBLIC SHAME FOR JIHADISTS.

Posted by Anonymous5256 2004-06-18 2:35:34 PM|| 2004-06-18 2:35:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 When are we - the west- finally going to realize these people are playing for keeps. It is absolutely impossible to fight these people one at a time like we are trying to do now.

This is a war, not a police sweep. It is a war of cultures and ideology. These beheadings will NEVER stop as long as we continue on the path we are on. We cannot kill them fast enough and we will not/can not win their hearts and minds.

The only way to ever stop this is to bring a horrendous, horrible, totally devastating reaction by the West - one from which the Arab world and culture will never recuperate. Their culture as a whole is as guilty as the murderers. They do not denounce murders like this; they do not denounce the fundamentalists; they do no denounce their preaching. Through their silence they clearly and loudly condone the killers.

We will not do that though because the West thinks this is too barbaric and not a civilized reaction. We have âprogressed farther than thatâ and we are âbetter than that.â Because we think like this, we fail to see the world as it really is. The âAnne Frankâ attitude that âthere is good in everyoneâ adopted by the West is simply not true. There are good people, bad people, smart people and dumb people.

They started this war. While I do not think we will ever "lose" this war, I do not think we will ever see it end. Our current strategy will not bring victory â it will bring perpetuity. To win we must destroy their will, their culture and their ideology.

I want them to fear us rather than like us. I want them to be too afraid to even look at our flag. That is the only way to guarantee peace with their culture. That is all their culture understands.

Posted by Anonymous5257 2004-06-18 2:39:35 PM|| 2004-06-18 2:39:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Anonymous5257 Above = Me - Yosemite Sam

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-06-18 2:40:25 PM|| 2004-06-18 2:40:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 A great islamic tradition, it seems

Approved by the Prophet (bees pee upon him)!

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-18 2:45:54 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-18 2:45:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Excuse me. I didn't mean subhuman. I meant smegma.

Posted by jules 187 2004-06-18 2:48:05 PM|| 2004-06-18 2:48:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 The talking heads on Fox News right now are talking about sending troops to the Tragick Kingdom. That'd be a fairly dumb idea. Hunter-killer teams would be more to the point. Perhaps the Russers would give us some pointers?

Posted by Fred 2004-06-18 2:57:28 PM|| 2004-06-18 2:57:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Wonder if it was anyplace close to where the Soddies were looking for it?

Of course they were looking nearby. I have no doubt some of their "security forces" are involved.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-18 3:01:22 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-18 3:01:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The murder of Paul Johnson by those Islamic murderers is the worst criminal act against innocent people of God. That such criminal activities are still being perpetrated today, in the name of Islam, makes the misguided perpetrators the worst enemies of the right thinking world. Now is the time to call a spade by its own name, and make the murderers regret their actions.

Posted by Anonymous5260 2004-06-18 3:03:10 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:03:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I am sad that Mr. Johnson met his demise this way but way did he expect? Until the Balestianians get a decent life and health care unit they will continue to inspire anger amongst the proper peoples. I am still sad tho.

Posted by Junifer 2004-06-18 3:06:58 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:06:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 The murder of Paul Johnson is an outright barbarism, and a sheer show of religious madness. Any one who could raise his sword against an innocent person in such a brutal manner, all in the name of religion, does not represent a true faith, as no true world religion ever tolerates the shedding of human blood. Persons who engage in such inhuman activities are the worst murderers.

Posted by IWUNNA 2004-06-18 3:11:22 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:11:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Junifer, Juneifer, Jennifer - FOAD / HAND.

Posted by .com 2004-06-18 3:12:54 PM|| [http://www.amble.com/images/jihad_this.jpg] 2004-06-18 3:12:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Fuck you, Junifer.

Posted by Crusader 2004-06-18 3:14:37 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:14:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Junifer - you are ignorant.

Posted by Anonymous5261 2004-06-18 3:15:30 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:15:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Off topic, but the Paleos kill far more of their own than the Israelis do. Talk about a group that needs a beheading.

Posted by remote man 2004-06-18 3:18:30 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:18:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Junifer-Balestinians? Careful-your spelling errors are linguistic slips and are revealing who you are.

A decent life and health care? Your buddies the assassins of Mr. Johnson have just made that a much dimmer possibility. This will probably mean we will be tightening ranks with Israel.

Posted by jules 187 2004-06-18 3:19:16 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:19:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 News is reporting that Paul Johnson had lived in SA for something like ten years and was considering converting to Islam. I'm not sure I'm quite ready to get my seethe on about this one.

Posted by BH 2004-06-18 3:29:54 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:29:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Any one who could raise his sword against an innocent person in such a brutal manner, all in the name of religion, does not represent a true faith, as no true world religion ever tolerates the shedding of human blood.

Islam does.

BH -- if he was only considering, then he hadn't done it. He was still kaffir, still one of us.

More importantly to his murderers, though, was his citizenship and skin color.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-18 3:36:46 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-18 3:36:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Word is this group calls themselves the Fallujah Brigade. Funny, haven't we heard that name before?

Posted by Capt America 2004-06-18 3:48:09 PM|| 2004-06-18 3:48:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 I posted this once already... A poem I wrote on reading of the taking of this hostage... Seems kina prescient now... Unfortunatly...

Hostage

Alone, surrounded, facing death for being who he is
God needs for you to die now, Remember Ali the Alamo, Fallujah, Abu Ghraib...
Satan America allows me to kill and kill and kill...
Cut off head, God wants you to. (Really he does)
Dripping blood and chaos is his wish for you and yours

What kind of god demands such terror and blood?
How could any worship this way? Why?

Hostage weak, oh how tough you are,
bastard son of...
Put your woman in her place,
slice off the Zionist crusader American head,
then your impotence
will cease...

Or you will finally meet your martyrdom, dead and silent,
Like Lenin or Pol Pot...
Worms and the hate you left behind your only comfort...

Posted by Sonic Puke 2004-06-18 3:52:01 PM|| [http://sonicpuke.blogspot.com/] 2004-06-18 3:52:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Apparently the photos are on Drudge. I have no desire to see them, but I find it interesting that my current client's network team blocks all images from outside websites when news like this breaks.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-18 4:06:35 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-18 4:06:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 RC: if he was only considering, then he hadn't done it. He was still kaffir, still one of us.

Maybe, but it's easy to see where his sympathies lay. His wife is moosleem, too. As far as I'm concerned, this is a red-on-red.

Posted by BH 2004-06-18 4:09:33 PM|| 2004-06-18 4:09:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 PUSH THE BUTTON, MR. PRESIDENT!! It's so much nicer to drill for oil through glass.

Posted by craig 2004-06-18 4:10:30 PM|| 2004-06-18 4:10:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 BH -- he was still an American citizen, and they still murdered him as a sacrifice to Allah.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-18 4:15:14 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-18 4:15:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 BH - thats foolish. Don't you understand they killed him because he was American?

Posted by Anonymous5261 2004-06-18 4:16:32 PM|| 2004-06-18 4:16:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Farrakhan's an American too, and I don't care if they turn him into Soylent Green.

Posted by BH 2004-06-18 4:17:49 PM|| 2004-06-18 4:17:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 I don't care if they turn him into Soylent Green.

Careful, lest someone says the same thing about you. The jihadis would want nothing better, than for us to cheer each others' beheading.

Posted by Rafael 2004-06-18 4:26:43 PM|| 2004-06-18 4:26:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 I just read the news reports of the beheading of Mr Johnson. Bush was and is right - we need to fight and we need to win the WoT. This transends politics. The islamofascist terrorists must be defeated, and the cost will be less now than if we wait and appease only to have to fight later. Multculturalism is fine when the cultures involved are mutually striving for ways to respect each other and live peacefully together. That is not what we have in the real world. It is a sobering thought to realize the terrorists are not mere criminals, but believers in a political/religious philosophy that seeks to force itself on everyone who disagrees. Totalitarianism is and always has been wrong, and history tells us it must be stopped. You will not see another anti-Bush post by Jennifer.

Posted by Jennifer 2004-06-18 4:35:04 PM|| 2004-06-18 4:35:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Rafael--Gloves are off as of today. It's useful to put yourself in anothers' shoes...but only humans wear shoes. These jihadists aren't humans.

Farrakhan will have to pick sides, like everyone else.

Posted by jules 187 2004-06-18 4:39:34 PM|| 2004-06-18 4:39:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Jennifer, I'm not going to smile now, because the occasion doesn't call for it. I saw a clip of the guy's family on TV yesterday and was saddened beyond belief. What made me so upset is how my heart went out to his family, begging, pleading on national television for the Saudis to do whatever they could, for Bush to push them to find the man, for the kidnappers to understand - but all the while, I knew that the kidnappers wouldn't care. Because they are animals. They're uncivilized, and they pledge their lives and blood to a creed of hatred and destruction. And I knew with a sick feeling in my gut that we'd never see that man alive again, and I was all the sadder for it.

However, I am glad to see that you understand why we say some of the things we do here. There are a lot of people who don't understand what you now do - and some of them never will. We have to keep going, despite what they say, because otherwise hatred will win.

Posted by The Doctor 2004-06-18 5:33:06 PM|| 2004-06-18 5:33:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 I saw the photos on Drudge Report.

Mr. Johnson represents every American. This is what the Islamos want to do to every American--regardless of whether or not he/she capitulates to Islam, seeks to understand and appreciate their culture, or (like me) wants to blow them off the face of the earth.

"The only way to ever stop this is to bring a horrendous, horrible, totally devastating reaction by the West - one from which the Arab world and culture will never recuperate." Well said, Yosemite Sam . I liked your entire post.

Wonder if the Press will make a big deal out of this act of barbarity like they did the Abu Gharib thing. Doubt it. It's "okay" for Islamics to do bad things. They don't know any better, and besides, they are under such terrible pressure from US foreign policy, don't ya know.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-06-18 6:01:26 PM|| 2004-06-18 6:01:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 I heard about this on the way home from work. What a disgrace! 1st, we are loosing American Soilders for a stupid reason and now INNOCENT American citizins!! When will Bush realize the only way to take care of this is to pull out all Americans from this dirty, trashy, worthless, P.O.S country and then just bomb it. If then can fight dirty, WHY can we!!! Save the Americans! Screw the Arabs!!!

Posted by Victoria22 2004-06-18 7:12:35 PM|| 2004-06-18 7:12:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 i'm starting to feel like we need our own terrorist to start taking these muslims out ourselves.there are probably a lot of them living here in the us.they send the tax free money back home.mabe if we start taking care of buisness here they may get the point.now get every american and our friends out of the mid-east and drop yhe napom i personally think it would be a good start,not to mention the billions of dollars it would save.this is not hate mail this is what most people should think of as justice.how can any human call this a holy war ther is nothing holy about it.this can't be what any god we worship wants.so mr.bush it won't hurt you to drop the bomb somebody needs the balls and i think you may have them so do it stop this madness.it's only politics not barbaric.

Posted by Anonymous5271 2004-06-18 7:14:00 PM|| 2004-06-18 7:14:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 Junifer, what the hell is wrong with you? Are you one of them? Its a horrible thing that those inbreds did to an American. It should have never happened. Atleast when the time is right, they will get what the deserve

Posted by Victoria22 2004-06-18 7:18:47 PM|| 2004-06-18 7:18:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#35 Victoria, that isn't going to work. We're fighting a tribal mindset here, and in that mindset, the strongest one is the winner. We pull out now, we actually encourage this kind of thing, because we'll have shown ourselves too weak to withstand it, and they'll think themselves strong for having "driven the Americans away." We have to keep going, until every last one of them is gone. There is no alternative, not if we want peace in this world.

Posted by The Doctor 2004-06-18 7:26:02 PM|| 2004-06-18 7:26:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 This is the last straw for a number of Middle-Eastern & other nations assisting these terrorist animals!

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-06-18 7:56:02 PM|| 2004-06-18 7:56:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#37 Mark - What? Seen some stories? Links, plz, if you have available. Long overdue and would be much welcomed - especially if they actually follow through and start helping us more than we've seen to date. Thx, in advance!

Posted by .com 2004-06-18 8:05:23 PM|| [http://www.amble.com/images/root_for_us.jpg] 2004-06-18 8:05:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#38 This the last straw? Wishful thinking. We will be angry a few days, then back to politicing. We will not take any bold action during the campaign.

The last straw will be when an American city lies in smoking embers. It will take that to silence the "Its really our fault" crowd, and only then will we recognize the fight is really for our lives.

Posted by Rock 2004-06-18 8:24:46 PM|| 2004-06-18 8:24:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#39 Doc - I think she was suggesting we withdraw outside the blast radius ;-)

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-18 8:25:54 PM|| 2004-06-18 8:25:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#40 nice pic link PD

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-18 8:26:48 PM|| 2004-06-18 8:26:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#41 Rock / All - One thing is obvious, if we did not have our own native class of LLL morons, ranging from the idiots like Victoria22 above whose post made me wince with its duplicity and utter stupidity to those who believe that Gore is the actual President and Bush is an unelected unconstitutional usurper, we would be more unified, ourselves, and far better prepared to coalesce around the get-tough policies so glibly tossed out around these parts - election year or not.

But, since there IS an LLL and it IS based upon Bush-hatred INSTEAD of facing the realities of Islmofascism, faux-ally duplicity and obstructionism, NKor / PakiWaki / Mad Mullah proliferation, and the myriad subversive and dangerous activities of the Chinese "commie" regime, well this simply means that we are as likely to get a gutless turd like Skeery for our next President as we are to get Bush - the only guy on the political scene in the US with half a clue, the balls to DO something about it, and who understands WTF people on sites like RB are talking about.

Exercise: Count the number of high-ranking officials in US history who, while in office, have challenged and begun taking on the 'Special Relationship' with the Saudis, whom we all recognize to be the root of the problem, with more than half-assed rhetoric. There's only one.

Given the realities created by these LLL assholes and general malcontents, Rock and Dave D and many others are dead right: many more Americans will have to die before there is a national public mandate and concensus in the US to do what most of us here advocate or believe is inevitable.

It is both truly disingenuous and duplicitous to be against this insanity and willing to accept the reality that our way of life is at stake - and be against Bush.

And, when all the marbles are on the table, no less.

Lay the next few atrocities at the feet of these people. Let's see (what choice do we have?) how long it takes for them to learn to hate insane killers more than they hate themselves and Bush.

Fred, you wanna keep score and pick the dividing line for when the toll begins (or began, IMHO) accruing?

Posted by .com 2004-06-18 8:48:38 PM|| [http://www.amble.com/images/root_for_us.jpg] 2004-06-18 8:48:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#42 Doctor, No we must removal all the Americans and just drop the bomb. We did it before and we should do it again. Show everyone not to mess with America. They started it, we finish it. We will not be backing down, just sort of going out with a bang. Kicking some serious a$$

Posted by Victoria22 2004-06-19 12:28:41 AM|| 2004-06-19 12:28:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#43 .Com & Rock.

I spoke off the cuff & immediately after becoming infuriated and nauseated from the photos of the American hostage, Paul Johnson but would like to add a few items listed below.

I totally agree we are in a war for our very existence, but the majority of so-called 'westerners' do not in the least actually fathom the extreme seriousness of the planned global madness of the enemy. In fact the Left in America & abroad are assisting the monstrous objectives to exterminate the non-Muslim world. Think of this enemy of a high-tech Mongol Horde of the 21st century.

There are deliberately instated ongoing counter measures all through the Persian Gulf region concerning the primary requirement to slash monetary flow to the Shi'ite brand of terrorism. The 'mullah removal problem' is a top priority.

While as far as Syria, 'assisting ' the Syrian Kurdish drive for greater independence, as yet another method of backdoor manoeuvring to cause some additional major difficulties for the rouge regimÃ© of 'Dr' Assad Jr. When Syria is spoken of greater Syria (Lebanon) should be included on the cleaning list.

Israel is planning a surprise for Iran as well, to prevent any future Iranian goals on raining down a holocaust on the Jewish nation, shot from Iranian skies.

Counter Islamic fanatics threats are underway from southern Sudan through Chad with boots on the group & our eyes in the sky. Stepped up attacks on Pakistani-Afghan-border based al-Qa'ida hideouts.

I believe the Bush Administration has already made economic plans once Saudi crude is disrupted through multi-acts of devastating sabotage.

If the Bush administration lets out everything underway to counter the threats by the jihadic movement & the governments which wholeheartedly bankroll them, the Kerry bunch will twist and warp our present and near future countermoves for purely election purposes which in my opinion is tantamount to aiding the Islamic terrorist cult.

The 'progressive' types should be reminded the fanatics of Islam view all Americans as one, no matter how often the Left bashes American troops as 'invaders' and continues to harp on the Iraqi prison rubbish, while I wonder how many of those sell out traitors are upset about Americans being beheaded by savage members of the death cult,

If it was up to most us in here, the Saudi 'royal' family can be flushed down the drain by the very monsters they created.

Oil politics clouds the mind and principals.

The link is a Syrian Kurdish overview.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-06-19 2:29:36 AM|| [http://www.kurdmedia.com/news.asp?id=5097] 2004-06-19 2:29:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#44 Mark - Thx for the reply... a few comments...

I'm with you up to this point:
"There are deliberately instated ongoing counter measures all through the Persian Gulf region concerning the primary requirement to slash monetary flow to the Shi'ite brand of terrorism. The 'mullah removal problem' is a top priority."

Can you elucidate a little? I see the Wahhabi Sunni money flow as the main problem, not the Shi'a - so I'm confused. And what sort of counter-measures? I've long favored and argued for a decap in Iran - and I believe that, time and politix permitting, it will be Bush's top priority at year's end.

I'm back on-track after that beginning with the Israelis perhaps being party to the Mullah / Nuke solution, but I don't think they'll have to act alone unless Kerry wins.

Re: N. Africa (Sudan / Chad / et al) these are not a direct threat, but a human catastophe issue, no? Can't we use a low-key strategy, such as arms and intel, to avoid this calamity without many boots? Or is that what you're saying?

I agree that there will be plans regards securing the Saudi facilities, attempting to minimize flow disruption, and restabilizing financial markets.

I absolutely agree that any plans made public now will become so politicized that it would merely distort and confuse the issues and the public. I, too, hold out little hope for our rather thick (in more ways than one) fringe in the US. Soma, perhaps? Neuromancer wireheads? They are only speedbumps in our economy anyway, so...

Thx for the link and any feedback you might have!

Posted by .com 2004-06-19 2:52:12 AM|| 2004-06-19 2:52:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#45 Mark - Excellent link on Kurds - I'm laughing my ass off - for real - reading about the headaches the Kurds are giving all their jailers / oppressors and the concessions they are (finally) beginning to get.

Seeing the freedom of the Iraqi Kurd is causing unrest among all the others, lol! I wish the Arabs were 1/10th as intelligent! 10M in Turkey, 5M in Iraq, 1.5M in Syria, and 3.5M in Iran -- nothing to sneeze at - or ignore. And they're sitting on the Syrian and Iraqi oil. Lol! Mebbe they won't get screwed this time!

I've got a feeling that the Assad clique will lose this struggle - the Iraqi Peshmerga are bound to sympathize & arm them if he tries the crackdown strategy implied at the end of the article. It's impossible to keep them down on the farm once they've seen the big city lights... And the Kurds are patient - they've been under someone's thumb for the last 500 years.

Thx, again - excellent piece.

Posted by .com 2004-06-19 3:04:38 AM|| 2004-06-19 3:04:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#46 .com,

Are you there? I need to ask you a question about computers.

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-19 3:05:00 AM|| 2004-06-19 3:05:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#47 A4617 - Yep - midnight here in Sin City so 11:00 AM there, right?

Shoot.

Posted by .com 2004-06-19 3:12:35 AM|| 2004-06-19 3:12:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#48 Hi .com,

First of all, I might have jumped the gun when I said that they were celebrating in Khobar. According to the Arab News, they arrested some terrorists there last night. I do not buy it. Too much of a coincidence to go tearing through Khobar right after they announced Johnson's murder, unless the terrorists to be captured were celebrating. We will know the truth sooner or later.
About the computer questions:
Is it possible to find out the name of the registrant of a website? I have tried the Whois and this is what I got:

Domain name: venezuelanalysis.com

Registrant Contact:
RegisterFly.com - Ref# 9261263
Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com (9261263.fly@spamfly.com)
+1.2122952121
Fax: +1.2122952153
230 Park Avenue
Suite 864
New York, NY 10169
US

Administrative Contact:
RegisterFly.com - Ref# 9261263
Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com (9261263.fly@spamfly.com)
+1.2122952121
Fax: +1.2122952153
230 Park Avenue
Suite 864
New York, NY 10169
US

Technical Contact:
RegisterFly.com - Ref# 9261263
Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com (9261263.fly@spamfly.com)
+1.2122952121
Fax: +1.2122952153
230 Park Avenue
Suite 864
New York, NY 10169
US

Billing Contact:
RegisterFly.com - Ref# 9261263
Whois Protection Service - ProtectFly.com (9261263.fly@spamfly.com)
+1.2122952121
Fax: +1.2122952153
230 Park Avenue
Suite 864
New York, NY 10169
US

Status: Active

Name Servers:
dns1.name-services.com
dns2.name-services.com
dns3.name-services.com
dns4.name-services.com
dns5.name-services.com

Creation date: 13 Aug 2003 12:09:20
Expiration date: 13 Aug 2004 12:09:20

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-19 3:21:00 AM|| 2004-06-19 3:21:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#49 This is what I was able to get - not much that you didn't already have...

Lessee what some Utils say...
=================================================
Site IP: 64.191.57.43
Email Address: editors@venezuelanalysis.com verified / responding (Mail server: mango.aporrea.org)
Email Address: 9261263.fly@spamfly.com verified / responding (Mail server: registerfly2.com)
=================================================
So you have a Venezuelan Site on an ISP in Pennsylvania. There seems to be nothing unusual or obfuscated about the site info - everything checks out.

See if badanov can find out more. Mebbe he has some of the sexier tools. I used standard email verification and Visual Route output - that's all I have on my little laptop these days!
=================================================
ISP Info:
OrgName: Network Operations Center Inc.
OrgID: NOC
Address: PO Box 591
City: Scranton
StateProv: PA
PostalCode: 18501-0591
Country: US

NetRange: 64.191.0.0 - 64.191.127.255
CIDR: 64.191.0.0/17
NetName: HOSTNOC-3BLK
NetHandle: NET-64-191-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.HOSTNOC.NET
NameServer: NS2.HOSTNOC.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2002-05-31
Updated: 2003-08-08

TechHandle: SMA4-ARIN
TechName: Arcus, S. Matthew
TechPhone: +1-570-343-8551
TechEmail: nic@hostnoc.net

OrgTechHandle: SMA4-ARIN
OrgTechName: Arcus, S. Matthew
OrgTechPhone: +1-570-343-8551
OrgTechEmail: nic@hostnoc.net

Posted by .com 2004-06-19 3:54:18 AM|| 2004-06-19 3:54:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#50 Thanks, .com!

Is there anyway that I can contact you or you can contact me that is not on this site? I would like to explain to you my interest on this webite and others coming from Venezuela (country of origin for moi).

Thanks in advance!

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-19 4:06:43 AM|| 2004-06-19 4:06:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#51 We can exchange email addresses through Fred: Fred@rantburg.com

He has mine, so just email him yours and tell him to forward it along to me (CC'ing you) and we both have the other's. Go ahead and state your email address in the email you send him so I don't have to try dig it out of the headers if his obfuscates previous addresses when forwarding!

Posted by .com 2004-06-19 4:21:04 AM|| 2004-06-19 4:21:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#52 .com,

I will do that.

Thanks again for your help.

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-19 4:34:41 AM|| 2004-06-19 4:34:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#53 I didn't find much - bad may have those nasty-good tools for drilling into places... heh!

Posted by .com 2004-06-19 4:52:48 AM|| 2004-06-19 4:52:48 AM|| Front Page Top

20:11 Frank G
19:25 Anonymous5497
13:43 Sammy Frobisher
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