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2016-06-13 Home Front: WoT

Guess which Orlando bar was a "gun free zone."

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Posted by Besoeker 2016-06-13 09:14|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 Sure, and no one would carry without a license, or be in a bar.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-06-13 10:52|| 2016-06-13 10:52|| Front Page Top

#2 Oh gee gosh! A gun free zone didn't work!! Oh the humanity!

Posted by DarthVader 2016-06-13 11:06|| 2016-06-13 11:06|| Front Page Top

#3 The cops took 3 hours to get in there. While there's no excusing what the Muslim terrorist did, it appears that making sure every cop got to go home that day took precedence over saving lives.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2016-06-13 13:23|| 2016-06-13 13:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Not sure that's entirely fair, Zhang. The cops did need to figure out what was going on, and there was a fair bit of rescue.

I do agree that in these situations it's likely better for the cops to go in as quickly as they can -- but we don't want them to charge into an ambush. Count on the ISIS mooks to figure out how to set that up.

Posted by Steve White 2016-06-13 14:06|| 2016-06-13 14:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Regardless of any law against patrons carrying in a bar, why didn't the bouncers have firearms?

Never mind moslem terrorism - homosexual bars must know they're targets for someone.

Posted by Barbara 2016-06-13 15:10|| 2016-06-13 15:10|| Front Page Top

#6 Zf is right, 5 cops in 10 minutes doing their sworn duty would have saved many. But how many chances do you get to go full SWAT school?

It's one guy with a gun, man up assault and kill. Remember the Sergeant of Arms of the House Of Commons? Went to his his desk got his pistol and BANG! BANG! No history

Posted by Shipman 2016-06-13 15:32|| 2016-06-13 15:32|| Front Page Top

#7 The shooter had a CCL - he broke the rules!

Posted by Glenmore 2016-06-13 16:27|| 2016-06-13 16:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Three hours seems unbelievable, but there must be some planning even on the fly to understand the layout of the property and target. Also, the cops need to watch out for the ambush for cops AND first responders medical.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2016-06-13 16:49|| 2016-06-13 16:49|| Front Page Top

#9 Also could have been terrified there was a pipe-bomb or other explosive waiting for them. Still think 3 hours is ridiculous, but I bet you anything the SWAT team wasn't anywhere near ready when this was called in. Which...is actually kind of bad.

Posted by Charles 2016-06-13 18:35|| 2016-06-13 18:35|| Front Page Top

#10 I would like to know how much time it took for the SWAT team to get all dressed up, check their batteries, get reacquainted with their bad boy weapons, have a couple of doughnuts and refuel their assault vehicle.

Exactly, cops need to be cops, it's dangerous as hell sometimes, but you signed on the line, no special out. Uncle Charles would have blown thru the crowd and landed at least one slug on this POS, a shotgun slug. You take the Queens money and you take your chances.

Posted by Shipman 2016-06-13 19:19|| 2016-06-13 19:19|| Front Page Top

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