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GOP Immigration Stance Far From Reagan Reforms

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Posted by rex 2004-06-11 12:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Ketsup,not salsa is still the condiment of choice,right ?

Posted by rich woods 2004-06-11 12:30:59 AM|| 2004-06-11 12:30:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Actually, #1, the source country of immigrants is not as big a deal to me as much as there be an identified need in our country that immigrants fullfill - this idiotic "family reunification" as a priority reason for immigration that Drunken Teddy pushed through in 1965 needs to be deep-sixed. We don't have room or the resources for the extended family members of Sultana or Pedro ages 2-82. As well as what our country needs in terms of fulllfilling employment gaps, I strongly believe that immigration be conducted in an orderly efficient legal fashion. Right now there's a huge migratory movement going on in the world and we cannot take in every poor person who washes up on our shores. The EU has really clamped down on immigration, even going so far as paying off poor nations to take back their indigent peoples who fled to greener pastures. If the West takes every immigrant who sneaks across the border, the Third World will never get better. No one stays around to make things better. Also, in this age of deadly disease like Ebola we need to scrutinize potential immigrants for health issues very carefully. It's our nation's right. Also, we can no longer allow the Human Rights Commission of the UN determine our national identity 20 years from now by sluffing off X number of thousands of refugees on the West each year, no questions asked. There I've said my piece. The article is good by the way, and it speaks to how the GOP have strayed so far away from Reagan's beliefs. If you think Reagan is a hero, then you should be on top of what the current Rinos are doing. The Demoicrats have not changed much from Reagan's day, but the GOP have.

Posted by rex 2004-06-11 3:14:21 AM|| 2004-06-11 3:14:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#3
this idiotic "family reunification" as a priority reason for immigration that Drunken Teddy pushed through in 1965 needs to be deep-sixed

I agree. Unfortunately, though, it's not on the political agenda at all.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-06-11 7:05:27 AM|| 2004-06-11 7:05:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Back in '91-'92 I was working in Cambridge, Massachusetts (I got thrown out of the MIT bar which is another story) and I met a very nice lady who was trying to get a job in a department store. They wouldn't hire her because she couldn't speak Spanish. Where was the ACLU? She wasn't a deprived minority, only a WASC so "tough luck". Now here in East Tennessee there are a lot of Mexicans and Vietnamese. The Mexicans are hard workersand for the most part good people who are here recently. The Vietnamese have been here for a long time. Neither groop speaks English but the schools here are still supposed to teach the children. In the case of the Mexicans, the children are learning English. The Vietnamese are not so the Feds have decided the school system must hire teachers who can speak Vietnamese. This has put quite a burden on these small county school systems. These Vietnamese children are grandchildren of people who came here right after the Vietnam debacle and have never been taught English. They are at a very big disadvantage now and unless they learn English will be at an even gretaer disadvantage later. This multi-cultural system just doesn't work.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-06-11 7:56:53 AM|| 2004-06-11 7:56:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 This article is not about immigration but illegal immigration and giving these lawbreakers amnesty - and take a good hearty power-shit on the millions of law-abiding people who are patiently waiting their turn to immigrate LEGALLY.

I have a big problem with this. First they will have no respect for their citizenshp or residency since they did not have to 'earn' it. Second it is a big farking hole in our national security (That should worry some people but apparently it doesn't....) and third it has a huge impact on local economies -- Just look at how much California and Texas are spending on medical and education for illegals.

Did you know that to sponsor a 'legal' you need to sign an 'Affadavit of Support' saying that you will support that person for a certain period of time (I think it is 10 years or so)? Illegal aliens get free medical and education care while LEGAL aliens, and their sponsors, have to pay for their own as well as the Illegal's.

Finally, as I mentioned, there is an established, legal, process for immigration which controls the flow (and you *want* to do that), performs background checks, and does not favor those who are dishonest and violate federal law. Granting amnesty will remove all incentive for people to follow the 'legal' path since they can get it much easier and faster (and cheaper) by being illegal.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-06-11 10:12:21 AM|| 2004-06-11 10:12:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 This was the issue that Bush lost my vote on-no rule of law here, just placating a constituency. If we think long-term, a continuance of this hands-off, PC approach will be disastrous for our country. This is not only a work question; it is a question of demographics. A country's laws are created from the beliefs of its citizens. To imagine that unchecked and ethnically imbalanced immigration will have no impact on the character of the US is just silliness. Yes, we welcome people from every part of the world, but the chest of charity is not bottomless, the capacity to absorb immigrants is not limitless, and no one ethnic group should be favored over any other if we are to stay a truly free nation of hope and opportunity.

Posted by jules 187 2004-06-11 10:16:51 AM|| 2004-06-11 10:16:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Thank you, #5, for getting the discussion back on track- indeed,the article addressed illegal immigration. I'm not sure if any of you have read:
a) Winter, 2004 City Journal article by Heather McDonald[neocon]entitled "The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" It's long and packed with statistics and it will make your hair stand on end. If you can't read it now, bookmark the url for later.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

b) also, a short piece in the Washington Times that ties the burden of un-reimbursed health care costs to illegal immigration
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040225-112041-3958r.htm"Report ties health care struggles to immigration"
...in some hospitals, as much as two-thirds of total operating costs are for uncompensated care for illegal aliens...hospitals near the U.S.-Mexican border reported losses of almost $190 million in unreimbursed costs for treating illegal aliens in 2000, with an additional $113 million in ambulance fees and follow-up services; and that the increase in uncompensated care for immigrants has forced some hospitals to reduce staff, increase rates, cut back services and close maternity wards and trauma centers...

Posted by rex 2004-06-11 11:11:11 AM|| 2004-06-11 11:11:11 AM|| Front Page Top

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