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2004-06-09 Arabia

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Posted by Anon1 2004-06-09 10:09:46 AM|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Daniel Pipes has an update on his site:

June 8, 2004 update: I have received a number of responses to this article along the lines of "You are suggesting that I forsake my religious tradition to save my life, which I will not do." To this I have several comments:

I respect this reaction.

I am not advocating religious dissimulation but pointing out the choice that a non-Muslim might face and making the information available with which to make that choice.

When non-Muslims are mortally threatened as described in the article above, they are not threatened for belonging to a religion (Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc.) but for not belonging to a religion (Islam).

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-09 10:16:25 AM|| 2004-06-09 10:16:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Claiming to be a Muslim (truly or not) didn't help that BBC reporter any.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-06-09 10:40:17 AM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2004-06-09 10:40:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 When I first show the headline, "Pipes Saves Lives", I thought it was referring to a 1 1/2 inch diameter, 3 foot long steel pipe with a rubber grip at one end. That just might have saved a couple of guys, particularly if one could do the "hide behind the door and whack 'em when they come through" trick.

Posted by Steve White 2004-06-09 10:50:14 AM|| 2004-06-09 10:50:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 What are the laws concerning private firearm possession there? If I were crazy enough to live in that place, I'd want to keep a .45 handy just in case I have a terrorist-induced Maalox Moment&trade.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-09 11:42:14 AM|| 2004-06-09 11:42:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 PD commented a few days ago that fire arms are prohibited.

So they're targeting those who do not believe as they do.

Posted by Lucky 2004-06-09 12:49:15 PM|| 2004-06-09 12:49:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Where is this article where SKOr troops are converting to Islam???

Just curious,

Peggy

Posted by peggy 2004-06-09 1:48:07 PM|| 2004-06-09 1:48:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Trying the same "I am a Muslim" trick on the terrorists a second time will probably fail when everyone is doing it. I would call this "survival techniques for idiots." Steve White's Pipes save lives idea will probably save more lives that laying a soul brother trip on a terrorist.

Posted by Alaska Paul in Chefornak 2004-06-09 3:00:14 PM|| 2004-06-09 3:00:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 And what is "fuck you" in Arab?

Posted by True German Ally 2004-06-09 3:50:44 PM|| 2004-06-09 3:50:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Or: "Go ahead punk, make my day"?

Posted by True German Ally 2004-06-09 3:52:07 PM|| 2004-06-09 3:52:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 TGA: Based on the context of usage, I think it's "Allahu akbar".

As for this way of "surviving", all you're doing is turning yourself into a slave. Remember: Islam means "submission"; they don't care how you submit or why, so long as you submit.

(And remember, if you do this and later claim you didn't mean it, you're an apostate and subject to the death penalty.)

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-09 3:54:36 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-09 3:54:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 TGA - One night in the parking lot of the Al Rashid Mall (THE favorite place to shop and hang out for Saudis in Al Khobar / Dahrhan area), oh about 2.5 years ago, a pickup truck full of young twerps in standard Saudi Sunni garb all hollered "Fuck You!" at me in unison as they sped by. As the only pedestrian in sight, not to mention the only Westerner in sight, it was pretty obvious that they were yelling at me. Of course, instinctively, I hollered "Fuck You!" back - and they all roared with laughter and giggles.

So I think the American English "Fuck You!" is pretty universal, lol!

Of course today, if I was dumb enough to still be there and go shopping at Al Rashid at night, they might just shoot me, instead.

Posted by .com 2004-06-09 4:06:57 PM|| 2004-06-09 4:06:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Well indeed, the "fuck you" IS more effective with a gun in your hand.

It's interesting how many people you can shoot before they kill you when you are not afraid.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-06-09 4:20:08 PM|| 2004-06-09 4:20:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Indeed. I believe the old gunfighters talked about being in a very "deliberate hurry." If you don't hit what you're aiming at, then it is pointless to fire - except for the confusion factor. Wyatt Earp's quote is perfect: "Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything."

Posted by .com 2004-06-09 5:06:54 PM|| 2004-06-09 5:06:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Under Sharia, non-Muslims are forbidden from carrying weapons of any kind without explicit permission of the local religious authorities. This extends even to certain kinds of dining utensils.

Posted by therien 2004-06-09 6:01:38 PM|| 2004-06-09 6:01:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I cant even stand to read the shahada, much less say it.
I say NEVER. AND FU!
Anyway, one's soul is more important than one's body. Not to mention this is insulting to our soldiers on the front lines fighting these bastards...there's no shahada escape hatch for them, and there should be none for us either!
Semper Fi people!

Posted by TS(vice girl) 2004-06-09 7:35:01 PM|| 2004-06-09 7:35:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 as an atheist, it would not bother me to learn some verses of gobbledygook if it could keep me alive in the Magic Kingdom.

Were I there, I'd be taking that measure and putting a big fat koranic quote on my door and carrying a koran also.

I would think my life more precious than the sacrifice of a bit of pride in pretending to be a muslim.

If I were in Saudi Arabia of course.

In Australia I can say FU just like anybody else.

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-10 12:34:10 AM|| 2004-06-10 12:34:10 AM|| Front Page Top

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