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2011-06-05 Home Front: Culture Wars

'Open Borders' only solution to Farmers' Labor Woes

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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-06-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 Seasonal migrant workers aren't the problem. In fact, none of the potentially legal job workers is the problem. The problem is the Central and S. American cartels running gangs in US cities. And that is something that this spineless legislation isn't going to help.

Posted by DLR 2011-06-05 01:52|| 2011-06-05 01:52|| Front Page Top

#2 Let me get this straight. We're at real versus bureaucratic manipulated unemployment numbers that are reaching Depression level. We have a large segment of that unemployed native population with low skill sets. Here we have farmers bemoaning a labor shortage. One word. Entitlement.

The problem is the Central and S. American cartels running gangs in US cities

Well, hell yes, you make more money and work less hours pushing drugs. Make note of this for those who want to legalize the crap. What are you going to do with the tens of thousands of low skilled unemployed you're going to create. They certainly don't want to work the fields either. They're just turn to other means to support themselves at other people's expenses. Like a plague, you don't just go out and kill the rats because the fleas will jump to other critters to live, like pets and humans. First you seriously abate the flea population, then kill the rats.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-06-05 08:33|| 2011-06-05 08:33|| Front Page Top

#3 So we either let in anybody that wants to come in, or the food will rot in the fields and we'll all starve?

Boy, I never realized it was so simple!

Posted by Bobby 2011-06-05 10:51|| 2011-06-05 10:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Actually, getting rid of the rats is a great way to get rid of the fleas too. Killing off fleas and then keeping the rats around makes no sense.

Re: drugs, legalizing them does not solve the addiction problem any more than ending (or enacting) prohibition solved the alcoholism problem, but it does take organized crime out of the picture. Most reasonable people would rather have Anheuser Busch in charge than Al Capone. By your logic, Procopious2k, prohibition is preferable because it keeps mobsters employed and out of trouble... which (to be perfectly honest) is just stupid.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2011-06-05 11:52|| 2011-06-05 11:52|| Front Page Top

#5 SM go back and reread. You reduce the population, you'll never eliminate it, but you avoid the immediate effect of mass transfer when you do kill the rats at one time. Note well ...then kill the rats. Where did you get keeping the rats around?

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-06-05 12:09|| 2011-06-05 12:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I'd like to know why farmers think we taxpayers should pay for all their employees and their families benefits including education, medical, hospital, foodstamps, free school breakfasts and lunches, judicial and prison costs etc..etc,..etc.. so farmers can have cheap help.

How has it become that the taxpayers pick up all the expenses that businesses used to pick up?

I and my fellow classmates used to pick strawberries as a kid and were happy to have the money. The local schoolbus driver would pick us up at the regular bus stops in the morning and drive us to the strawberry fields during the summer. Win-win for everyone. No doubt that's illegal nowadays.

Posted by Captain Juque4132 2011-06-05 13:54|| 2011-06-05 13:54|| Front Page Top

#7 @Scooter McGruder Agreed, what an insane thing P2K said. He's Pro-Prohibtion.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-06-05 13:55|| 2011-06-05 13:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Wrong again. What I am is tired of all the rationalizers who refuse to look at the negative consequence of their utopian solutions. Those who extol the virtues of repealing Prohibition ignore the alcohol carnage on the roads who's body count exceeds the carnage we've experienced in war. It's no different than all those who relish their role in ending the war in Vietnam ignoring the million Cambodians annihilated in the third Holocaust of the 20th Century.

BTW, Big Al's decedents are alive and well. He's gotten out the manufacturing business and just moved into distribution paying off those same government officials for 'exclusive' or 'limited' liqueur distribution licenses that just seem to stay in the 'family'.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-06-05 14:10|| 2011-06-05 14:10|| Front Page Top

#9 I can agree with CJ that the expenses are shuffled among the columns.

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-06-05 14:12|| 2011-06-05 14:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Anyone advocating legalizing dope is revealing himself to be a scumbag hippie.

Like the Muslims should be deported back to their nightmare country, hippie scum should be expelled to where dope in in practice legal, like Mexico, Afghanistan, Somalia...these are the countries that resulted from dope heads' management....ever seen the shit houses where hippie dopers live?

Posted by hotspur666 2011-06-05 16:22|| 2011-06-05 16:22|| Front Page Top

#11 Drugs are not legal in Mexico, not even in practice.

Posted by badanov 2011-06-05 17:15|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2011-06-05 17:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Given that you come to Rantburg from Canada, hotspur, perhaps you should start there.

Posted by lotp 2011-06-05 17:17|| 2011-06-05 17:17|| Front Page Top

#13 Not in person, but that shit house in Scarface, wow, didn't need the statue or tiger. Talk about gaudy.

There are a number of drugs out there which amount to little more than wasted time/sloth, there are a lot of drugs out there which change a mindset forever, and there are a lot of drugs which are just evil. All drugs are illegal unless a person meets a certain legal definition of being able to purchase or consumes, unlike going to the store and purchasing an apple.

There will always be drugs. There will always be mobsters.

Places with low tolerance have people drinking lysol and rubbing alcohol. Places with high tolerance have in-and-out heroin clinics. The problem is a moral and sociatil question; is x community able to handle y change.

I myself will find it odd that as a kid I could get beer and smokes but as an adult all I can get is the dankest weed ever issued. A culture is an abstract sum of all of the individuals' behaviors and, better or worse, you cannot argue that there will be no change.

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-06-05 17:45|| 2011-06-05 17:45|| Front Page Top

#14 The phony narrative is being peddled by the MSM that we have to have illegals here to do low-paying jobs that Americans will not do. I don't buy that.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-06-05 18:07|| 2011-06-05 18:07|| Front Page Top

#15 #14 - that was my point in posting this article. Much of the article stressed how dangerous, nasty, ugly, messy, sickening, and low-paying this farm work is.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-06-05 21:36|| 2011-06-05 21:36|| Front Page Top

#16 Pople are dying in Germany ,and you want free travel? So they can get sick there and avoid all the health care checks just so they can die here?

That's a sure cure for dying, just go elsewhere?

NO there's a reason that borders have secure check points, that's One.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-06-05 21:57|| 2011-06-05 21:57|| Front Page Top

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