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2008-06-01 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iranians Cooling to Dinnerjacket, Warming to Americans Again
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Posted by Bobby 2008-06-01 07:33|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iran 

#1 The most interesting aspect of the revival of such warm feelings today is that the United States has done so little to earn them.

Except the thousands dead and billions spent liberating Iran's neighbors to the west and the east.

Though arguably the greater sacrifice has been on the part of patriots forced to read seditious bullshit by self-satisfied, posturing "lipstick jihadis".
Posted by Excalibur 2008-06-01 08:16||   2008-06-01 08:16|| Front Page Top

#2 The Iranians may have found out the worst of the Shah's repression wasn't all that bad, comparatively, and that it wasn't utterly without justification. They've lived with the consequences of throwing it off for the last 30 years and are starting to get a bad case of buyers remorse. They look at Iraq and realize they've been lying to themselves. Let them fix the problem themselves. Or at least without regular forces. They're up to it and they'll appreciate it more.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-06-01 08:40||   2008-06-01 08:40|| Front Page Top

#3 The Iranians just like the people on the dark side of the Iron Curtain are getting the news regardless of the efforts of Izvestia state controlled media and Pravda Western MSM to lie tell a different story. While Iranian agents and munition make it across the border in one direction, the truth is getting back across the other direction. Add in the natural human desire to project one's own hope for positive change, I'm sure our success in Iraq and the benefits to the Iraqi people are being amplified behind closed doors and in the off streets of Tehran.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-06-01 08:53||   2008-06-01 08:53|| Front Page Top

#4 It's gotta be hard to reconcile decades of Saddam is a monster with the US removed Saddam.

I think the Iranians better manage to clean up their own house and not expect the US to do it for them with an invasion because I just don't see it happening and I'm tried of every nation expecting us to do their revolution for them.

Something given has no value - Starship Troopers.

Earn your own freedom.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-06-01 10:28||   2008-06-01 10:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Quite a few Iranians were educated here or have relatives living in the US and manage to keep in contact. The students prior to the '79 Revolution had a real taste for the discos and partying. I find Iranian women have a real sense of style and dress very well if possible.
Posted by Thealing Borgia6122 2008-06-01 10:43||   2008-06-01 10:43|| Front Page Top

#6 Cheeep shot alert!

lionize Ahmadinejad for "standing up

That is all, go about your business.
Posted by George Smiley 2008-06-01 12:08||   2008-06-01 12:08|| Front Page Top

#7 This is all very nice, but the popular attitudes of common Iranians are completely irrelevant. They have no power or influence on the regime, even less than the Soviet-block populations did on theirs, because the regime does not depend on their aquiescence or productivity at all. Iran has no industry to speak of and no longer depends on huge conscript armies for its power.

The Iranian regime lives on its oil revenues and the 10% that unconditionally supports its religious insanity. Thats all they need. The rest of Iran and its people might as well not exist.
Posted by buwaya 2008-06-01 12:22||   2008-06-01 12:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Rang the ol BS meter with that line "the United States has done so little to earn them"

Actions speak louder than words.

Our troops ACTIONS and humanity are becoming known throughout the middle east, especially next-door in Iran.

Our building of schools, our helping kids and civilian,s our kiling of suicide bombers, our promotion, even demanding, that the PEOPLE elect the government ....

They all add up.

And Iranians are hearing and seeing it first-hand, next door, where their fellow Shia are revving up an exconomy and ALL the peopel are sharing in the success, not just the upper echelon and mullah-ocracy.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-06-01 12:27||   2008-06-01 12:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Here is the odd thing: Iran may end up a better ally than Turkey.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-06-01 12:38||   2008-06-01 12:38|| Front Page Top

#10 The problem is: islam. And for at least 200,000 Iranian immigrants to the US, abandonment of islam is the solution. Islam has never been anything but an instrument of Arab supremacism and aggression.

We should be playing these cards, against the Arab terror cult, instead of making deals with people who behead disbelievers: Persian, Egyptian, Kurd, Turk, Berber, Indonesian, Malaysian, Syrian, etc. Islam is an elite tool that offers nothing to anyone except Arab tyrants. We need to end our indulgence of those savages.
Posted by McZoid 2008-06-01 12:45||   2008-06-01 12:45|| Front Page Top

#11 McZoid - Divide and conquer? Might just work.
Posted by Cleting Black1202 2008-06-01 12:58||   2008-06-01 12:58|| Front Page Top

#12 The Iranian regime lives on its oil revenues and the 10% that unconditionally supports its religious insanity. Thats all they need. The rest of Iran and its people might as well not exist. That is also true of many other places on earth.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-06-01 13:02||   2008-06-01 13:02|| Front Page Top

#13 The most interesting aspect of the revival of such warm feelings today is that the United States has done so little to earn them.

Last timle they had a mjor earthquake aid flowed from America ands Israel. he leter was refused by the ayatollhas I don't know about the former, but the common man was not pleased at all.

Anyway I remember that after 9/11, in sharp contrast with what happened in Arab countries, Iranins lit candles for the victims.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2008-06-01 13:23||   2008-06-01 13:23|| Front Page Top

#14 Iranians are very good people. Our media on the other hand are scum, as well as the mullahs.
Posted by newc">newc  2008-06-01 18:36||   2008-06-01 18:36|| Front Page Top

#15 We have, through our actions in Iraq, a vehicle to influence the opinions of average Iranians that is unappreciated in the minds of many. Iraq is a destination of religious pilgrimage for thousands of Iranians every year. We don't have to say a word to them. We have an opportunity for what I call "existential diplomacy". People coming from Iran can see, hear and otherwise experience things with their own senses.

When Iraq's economy begins to boom and it is more fun to spend an evening in Baghdad than it is to spend an evening in Tehran, people will form their own conclusions.

Seriously, as things get better in Iraq, we don't need to hammer them with any propaganda or finance opposition groups. We simply give them an opportunity to experience daily life in an alternative system.

Thousands of Iranians every year will get to experience the changes in Iraq and how life improves. Words mean a lot less than reality. My gut tells me that more and more Iranians will be experience more and more freedom as they travel to Iraq and it will make an important impression on them.
Posted by crosspatch 2008-06-01 19:24||   2008-06-01 19:24|| Front Page Top

#16 Verily.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-06-01 20:38||   2008-06-01 20:38|| Front Page Top

#17 No doubt many Iranians will pick up Iraqi television broadcasts on their hidden satellite dishes, too. Even those that don't understand Arabic will be able to decipher the images. At least as powerful as what is seen and heard on pilgrimage.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-06-01 22:34||   2008-06-01 22:34|| Front Page Top

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