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2004-05-27 Iraq-Jordan
NYT: Abu Ghraib MPs Chronic Discipline Problems
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Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-27 3:20:16 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Another nail in coffin of all the theories about policy leading to the abuse, IMHO.

Any particular reason why the NYT felt it had to print up another Abu Ghraib piece?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-05-27 5:01:56 PM||   2004-05-27 5:01:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Most interesting Dept: That a known "requires constant supervision" crowd wasn't being supervised. I still remember my first reaction when this story broke. "Where was the adult supervision?"
Posted by Anonymous4904 2004-05-27 5:40:00 PM||   2004-05-27 5:40:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, once again the idiots at the NYT a beating a dead story to a pulp.
Way to go NYT!
Best. Birdcage Liner. Ever.
Posted by JerseyMike 2004-05-27 6:05:39 PM||   2004-05-27 6:05:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Guys, please, don't complain about this. After about a month of hand-wringing about the situation, they actually saw fit to publish actual details about the recent record of the unit under investigation.

(And if y'all will remember, I was pointing out stuff like this here last week. Or was it the week before? I forget... but you get the point.)
Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-05-27 6:09:00 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2004-05-27 6:09:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Captain's Quarters' analysis is dead on. The picture developing is of a few miscreants whose immediate superiors were too lazy or weak to discipline them. Graner et al. found themselves in a situation where they had absolute power, and inadequate supervision. The result isn't that surprising. Graner especially sounds like a loose cannon. His ex had to get a restraining order (or something?).
Posted by Sludj 2004-05-27 6:42:28 PM||   2004-05-27 6:42:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Normally, a poor discipline record will disqualify you from some types of duty. It would be good to add a guard qualification process that includes psychological testing. There certainly exists a group of twisted juveniles in America that consider feces and sodomy to be acceptable forms of hazing - we've seen plenty of incidents with regard to high school sports in the last several years. It would be an excellent idea to exclude them from military service altogether, but they should especially be excluded from supervision of detainees, who have little defense against guards.
Posted by Super Hose 2004-05-27 11:00:16 PM||   2004-05-27 11:00:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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