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2022-05-20 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Silence from Kyiv as Russia claims more than 1,700 surrender in Mariupol

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Posted by Besoeker 2022-05-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Time to come back to the negotiating table. This is a game changer.

If Biden had any brains he'd push for the best deal he can get now. Hunter's friends can keep their loot, Lockheed and the others can book their sales. But Russia has achieved what it set out to achieve, and now's the time to strike a deal.

Posted by Billy Budd 2022-05-20 19:33|| 2022-05-20 19:33|| Front Page Top

#2 Translation: Russia realizes it's not going to get any further, and wants to take its winnings to the bank instead of wait for Ukrainian counterattacks. Good luck with that.

Posted by Nero 2022-05-20 19:38|| 2022-05-20 19:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Wrong. The Russians are already advancing in the east. Mariupol's fall, additional troops freed up to move north plus redoubled shelling and missile attacks are enabling them to push back the Ukrainians. Zelensky admitted this in his address tonight.

In the last 24 hours the Russians have broken through the Ukrainian defenses in Luhansk and are now encircling the Ukrainians in Severodonetsk. They're advancing and bombing the hell out of the Ukrainian positions..

Posted by Billy Budd 2022-05-20 20:21|| 2022-05-20 20:21|| Front Page Top

#4 The longer we wait, the stronger Russia's negotiating position will be. They're advancing now, they're rolling in money, the Euros have caved on the issue of buying Russian gas on Russia's terms, and the Russian population is solidly behind the war.

Then again, perhaps Biden's actual plan is to let Ukraine's position become so desperate that he then orders a US intervention to attack Russia. There are already rumors about the USN attacking the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Anything is possible with this madman.

Posted by Billy Budd 2022-05-20 20:28|| 2022-05-20 20:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Luhansk's governor just said that Russians now "control 90 percent" of the province. NBC, MSN, all the major outlets are reporting Russia's breakthroughs today -- except The NY Times. We are hearing so much bullshit from the Times now -- it's like living in the USSR.

Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 20:54|| 2022-05-20 20:54|| Front Page Top

Posted by Rantburg is British propaganda 2022-05-20 21:32|| 2022-05-20 21:32|| Front Page Top

#7 perhaps Biden's actual plan is to let Ukraine's position become so desperate that he then orders a US intervention to attack Russia.

Scary thought. This crew is crazy enough, they just might do it. Probably in the Black Sea.

Posted by Patrocles 2022-05-20 22:10|| 2022-05-20 22:10|| Front Page Top

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