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2005-05-19 Europe

Spain's "Terrorgate"? Investigating 3/11.

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Posted by Anonymous5089 2005-05-19 11:09:59 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 WTF? This sounds like a cheap Clancy thriller.

Even if any of this is true, nothing's going to happen to the socialists.

Posted by beer_me 2005-05-19 13:55|| 2005-05-19 13:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Except that it is not a cheap Clancy thriller, but the real story of a manipulation of opinion perpetrated by the MSM and elements of the police linked to the Socialist Party. And they are hints that perhaps there was something more sinister, that some of these socialist cops knew what was going to happen and didn't move a finger to prevent it.

Think in this: the guy of the Tedax makes to the train, smells "Goma 2" an explosive who has not been used by ETA for decades, and then he gets his mobile phone, calls his superiors and tells "Titadyne" ie the explosive presently used by ETA who stole tons of it. Experts tell the smell of both explosives CANNOT be mistaken one for the other, so it was no error. But meditate on the quickness of thinking: "I will report of the wrong explosive, so government will believe it was ETA and will look like liar when discovered it was wrong". The guy thought of all of it in just a fe seconds? No way.

And there are plenty, plenty of pre 3/11 contacts between suspects and police, a witness who has drowned on full view of two policemen who did nothing to save her, plenty of dark spots in the invrestigation. Ah, "El Mundo" is NOT linked to the party of Aznar and it is NOT a sensationalist paper.

I will post a summary of the troubling facts next week.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-05-19 15:21|| 2005-05-19 15:21|| Front Page Top

#3 I'd have to see a lot more evidence before I'd believe a word of this. Frankly, it sounds like some of the goofy attempts to claim that Bush/Cheney/Halliburton did 9/11, or that the Boeing didn't hit the Pentagon.

The socialists may be venal and corrupt, but the stakes from something like this going wrong are simply too high. And the Spanish have some experience, a few years back, in dealing with socialists who try to take over the country non-democratically.

A plot like this requires everything to work right: one thing going wrong blows the whole deal. It's like a Hollywood movie plot: for it to work, hundreds if not thousands of people have to cooperate in a monsterous, diabolical plot that is quick unraveled by our intrepid hero. All we're missing is the beautiful bottle-blonde.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2005-05-19 15:54|| 2005-05-19 15:54|| Front Page Top

#4 "Even more curious is the fact that the phone in the Backpack #13 was a Mitsubishi Trium, one of very few on the market that require a SIM card to operate the alarm. . . . the question occurs: Why would terrorists who owned a cellphone shop and are deemed to be very technically proficient deliberately choose to use a device that would lead the police to their door?"

Because they expected it to be blown to bits?

Color me dubious.

Posted by James">James 2005-05-19 16:42|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2005-05-19 16:42|| Front Page Top

#5 "Because they expected it to be blown to bits?"

No, they didn't. One of the wires was not connected, and no insulating tape was used.

Which, by the way, the Spanish bomb squad did not tell the magistrate looking in to this. They just said they didn't know why the bomb failed. The loose wire, and the lie, makes this even fishier. See here for more on that: http://www.eurabiantimes.com/archives/2005/05/311_fishier_and.php

Posted by Colt 2005-05-19 18:30|| www.eurabiantimes.com]">[www.eurabiantimes.com] 2005-05-19 18:30|| Front Page Top

#6 One of the main reasons Charlie Chaplin lost the election, was that many in Spain thought he did not listen to the people about what they wanted, and that had absolutely nothing to do with supporting Bush. Obviously it had some impact but his support was disappearing anyway. Donât be so arrogant.

Posted by Get Real 2005-05-19 21:06|| 2005-05-19 21:06|| Front Page Top

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