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2005-05-17 Home Front: Culture Wars

Anglicans and Roman Catholics: One Step Closer

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Posted by Anonymoose 2005-05-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Big stoppers: Actively Gay Bishops. Female Ordination.

Quick Summary: Unification aint gonna happen. This is the MSM once again not knowing what Catholicism is.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-05-17 08:34|| 2005-05-17 08:34|| Front Page Top

#2 Another big stopper: requiring that members of the hierarchy believe not only in a single all-knowing, all-powerful God, but in that God being the Christian trinity.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-05-17 08:51|| 2005-05-17 08:51|| Front Page Top

#3 OldSpook-
A much bigger problem (in fact THE problem for many Protestants) is the role of the Pope. Indeed, the schism between Eastern Orthodoxy and the Roman Church is primarily over the authority of the Pope. Since the Pope isn't likely to give up his place at the top of the pyramid, unification is a pipe dream.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2005-05-17 08:56|| 2005-05-17 08:56|| Front Page Top

#4 good grief. love, faith, hope, charity, forgiveness is what it is about. Living a better life by using those ideals. revenge isn't sweet.

who gives a *&^% which pinky finger is the correct one to lift your teacup.

Posted by 2b 2005-05-17 09:19|| 2005-05-17 09:19|| Front Page Top

#5 How about Episcopalians and Anglicans moving one step closer? Or, how about the Episcopal and Anglican clergy moving closer to their parishioners? Not likely.

Posted by RWV 2005-05-17 10:42|| 2005-05-17 10:42|| Front Page Top

#6 The biggest issue between the two is Papal supremacy. However, they already have an entente cordiale that permits things like crossover services, essentially "clergy sharing". They've already resolved the rules for clergy marrige, and by resolving the Marianist situation, they can get real chummy. Both sides realize that if they could pull off even a rough reunification, it could create major inertia towards getting other orthodox factions involved in similar discussions, with the ultimate goal of creating a unified orthodox church.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-05-17 11:27|| 2005-05-17 11:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Old Spook,

The majority of 70 million Anglicans would have no problem with your major stoppers. That is why we can talk at all about getting closer to Rome. The rabid, lunatic fringe who have entrenched themselves in power with tons of cash from old money and six digit+ professional incomes are dying out and will likely only become more isolated until the day the communion gives them an ultimatum to choose to stay and repent or to go. But its these guys who get all the press. Gee I wonder why that is? Loonies like Spong and the liberal press make excellent bedfellows that's why.

We can work this out between Canterbury and Rome. The loonies will be gone soon one way or another.

Posted by peggy 2005-05-17 13:49|| 2005-05-17 13:49|| Front Page Top

#8 sigh.

I wanted to join the national cathedral..cause it's a beautiful church. The national episcopal church. But when I go look at the classes they offer...haha..it makes me want to laugh. What a bunch of confused sorry souls. Lot's of classes on everything but christianity. Look everybody...we're inclusive! We are diverse. We offer classes on every spiritual idea that we can think of...except of course, christianity. we don't want anyone to think we are narrow minded.

i'm sorry. but i'm not embarrassed to proclaim that I think christ had good ideas. I'm not embarrased to say i'm a christian..like so many people in this world. I don't think that being a christian makes me a nut.... as is the fashion to believe in this day and age. Heck...I used to think so too ..until I got older and wiser.

fashions fade. Ideals like faith, hope, charity, forgiveness, and love do not. It's good advice. Ignore at your own personal peril. sit at your own death bed as bitter, revengeful, hateful, mean-spirited, bitter losers. I'm going to do my best to take the advice that endures. I may not be brilliant, but I'm smart enough to realize that there is good advice and bad advice. I don't ask to be hit when I have 20. some wisdom endures the test of fashion.

Posted by 2b 2005-05-17 13:59|| 2005-05-17 13:59|| Front Page Top

#9 oops...sorry..I digressed. What I meant to say is that it's about Christ's principals..not about the church.

Like civil rights it's an ideal. Jessie Jackson can't spoil the ideal behind equality. He can lead people astray...but the ideal reamains regardless of how badly he soils it.

Let's not argue about the pope or the mechanics. Let's keep the real goal in mind.

/sermon off

Posted by 2b 2005-05-17 14:17|| 2005-05-17 14:17|| Front Page Top

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