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Judge orders couple not to have children

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Posted by Zenster 2004-05-08 12:43:10 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "This court believes the constitutional right to have children is overcome when society must bear the financial and everyday burden of care."

What needs to be overcome here is not constitutional rights, but the nanny-state notion that society somehow "must" relieve people of the personal costs of their stupidity, foolishness, lack of impulse control, or irresponsibility.

When we relieve people of the consequences of their stupidity, all we reap is more stupidity.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-05-08 1:18:42 PM|| 2004-05-08 1:18:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 The government ordering a citizen to be sterilized is extreme.

Instead, offer them free drug treatment if they agree to sterilization.

Posted by Old Guy 2004-05-08 1:21:48 PM|| 2004-05-08 1:21:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 You know, I can think of *some people* (Ahem) that make you wish some judge had ordered their parents not to conceive ...
but it's too Nanny Police State for words to do that!
Damn living in a democratic republic where everyone has freedom! LOL

Posted by Jen 2004-05-08 1:28:07 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-08 1:28:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 The government ordering a citizen to be sterilized is extreme. Instead, offer them free drug treatment if they agree to sterilization.

Old Guy, that is not happening here.

The judge is not forcing contraception on the couple nor is she requiring the mother to get an abortion should she become pregnant. The couple may choose to be sterilized at no cost to them, OâConnor ruled.

When we relieve people of the consequences of their stupidity, all we reap is more stupidity.

Dave D. has it right. We are fighting evolution by cushioning so many feebs from the consequences of their acts. Stupidity should be painful.

Posted by Zenster 2004-05-08 1:43:57 PM|| 2004-05-08 1:43:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Norplant and a hit on the lead ACLU attorney? Darwin's law in both cases? Just thinking aloud....

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-08 2:56:17 PM|| 2004-05-08 2:56:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 This is a clear case of societal abuse. These people refuse to accept the consequences of their own behavior, so the rest of us have to enforce our rights to NOT be put out by these slackers. My suggestion is to put them separate zoo enclosures, in different countries, and let them communicate only by email - with anyone - until both are sterile from old age. It'll be cheaper than having to continually absorb the cost of caring for an ever-increasing of welfare-dependent children, and maybe someone else will learn from their punishment.

We all have equal rights. No one, however, has the right to impose upon others without consequences. These nutcases are unwilling (or unable - with as much brain damage as they've done to themselves, there's always that possibility) to restrain themselves, so society must step in and restrian them - for the sake of the rest of us.

As for the ACLU, I hereby declare open season: Bag limit is two a day, possession is unlawful. Any weapon is permissible, but a lethal blow with an axe to the neck is preferred. These motherless sons are out to destroy our Republic, and it's time to stop them

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-05-08 3:39:40 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-05-08 3:39:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 If they have been proven to have committed child abuse then they should be locked up in jail. And since, to my knowledge, prisons don't tend to be mixed-gendered, there wouldn't be a problem with further procreation by them either.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-08 5:09:17 PM|| 2004-05-08 5:09:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 And since, to my knowledge, prisons don't tend to be mixed-gendered

Oh Aris, were it so simple. Prisoners here in the States are, in many cases, allowed conjugal visits. Some ACLU wackjob would get Mom permission to see Dad during visitation on Sunday and the clusterf**k (literally) would just keep going.

I'll throw my lot in with OP's remedy.

Posted by Doc8404 2004-05-08 5:38:02 PM|| 2004-05-08 5:38:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 hmm but i suppose gov money still goes for lots of stupid things and from top of my head paying the children food isnt the worst of all. Anyway put the children in debt to the state, when they grow up they'll have to pay or work for society or go jail.

Posted by Anonymous4602 2004-05-08 6:22:23 PM|| 2004-05-08 6:22:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 A4602 - punishing children for the excesses of their parents? Stop the machinery - either by physical separation or a (promised) claw-hammer vasectomy

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-08 6:30:00 PM|| 2004-05-08 6:30:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Oh Aris, were it so simple. Prisoners here in the States are, in many cases, allowed conjugal visits. Some ACLU wackjob would get Mom permission to see Dad during visitation on Sunday and the clusterf**k (literally) would just keep going.

I'll throw my lot in with OP's remedy.

This couple's consistent pattern of child abuse would make it appropriate for the state to impose a restraining order prohibiting any conjugal visits.

... punishing children for the excesses of their parents?

Let's all be thankful America prohibited inheriting "the sins of our fathers" by eliminating debtor's prisons. For those unclear on the subject, read Dickens' "Little Dorrit."

Posted by Zenster 2004-05-08 7:11:09 PM|| 2004-05-08 7:11:09 PM|| Front Page Top

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