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2007-05-02 Home Front: Politix

Kent State shooting victim sez: Reopen case

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-05-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The only reason to re-open the case would be to prosecute the arsonists and Vietcong sympathizers for sedition, rioting, and assault against military personnel.

The command to fire is irrelevant and would have been cited and proven before now if anyone had heard it at all. This is obviously another attempt by moonbats to milk this incident for more propaganda from a sympathetic MSM.

They are lucky it wasn't a lot worse. It almost was a massacre of monumental dimensions. According to James A. Michener's book Kent State, the enraged moonbats re-grouped immediately after the shootings and charged the Guardsmen, coming within ten feet of their loaded rifles before they stopped.

Enraged mobs are deadly even when they don't have weapons, as was demonstrated over and over in the 20th century and a few times since.

Since nobody really know what had just happened, it still seemed possible that the Guard was under attack by snipers, and the moonbats had murder in their eyes; a few more steps or the sight of a weapon really could have instigated a massacre.

If they had mowed down 300 hippies and VC infiltrators instead of 4, the media reaction could scarcely have been worse, while the salutary effect on future uprisings would have been much more positive.

Posted by Groluns Ulomort5343 2007-05-02 06:43|| 2007-05-02 06:43|| Front Page Top

#2 I think Kent State may have been the origin of Niven's First Law:

"Don't throw shit at an armed man"
and its notably wise corrolary:
"Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man."

According to Michener and many others, this was literally happening at Kent State.

Posted by Groluns Ulomort5343 2007-05-02 07:16|| 2007-05-02 07:16|| Front Page Top

#3 How about re-opening fire?

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2007-05-02 08:15|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2007-05-02 08:15|| Front Page Top

#4 The trashing of adjoining burbs and the burning of campus buildings [outside of sports celebratory festivities] over political issues since Kent State? 0.

Cause -> Effect

"We're adults." "Overthrow the government." "Burn, Baby, Burn." BANG "but, we're your children."

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-05-02 08:51|| 2007-05-02 08:51|| Front Page Top

#5 I was in junior high school at the time of Kent State, and I remember thinking, "Mmm, 'kay...isn't throwing rocks at, and otherwise menacing a bunch of tired, pissed-off guys with loaded weapons.... NOT one of those good ideas? Isn't that one of those things you are supposed to know, if you are bright enough to be college materiel?"
I do understand that some of those who were killed at Kent State were totally uninvolved in the protest... but for the protestors to assume that there would be no consequence to running amuck on campus was a remarkable miscalculation on their part.

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2007-05-02 08:56|| www.ncobrief.com]">[www.ncobrief.com] 2007-05-02 08:56|| Front Page Top

#6 I was a month away from my commission in the AF when Kent State happened. I remember thinking at the time that the students got what they deserved. The "peace movement" types considered the military subhuman and physically confronted us when they thought they could get away with it, from spitting and verbal abuse to physical assault when the numbers were on their side. No doubt in my mind that the Kent State guardsmen were in fear of their lives. That some "innocent students" were killed is too bad. When you play with pigs, you get dirty or, in this case, dead.

Posted by RWV 2007-05-02 09:30|| 2007-05-02 09:30|| Front Page Top

#7 RWV-

As near as anyone has been able to tell, the four kids who were killed really were just WPWT (wrong place, wrong, time, and I knew one of the families(they lived not far down the road from us). The thing I have never been able to understand is why anyone who wasn't involved in the protests was even on campus at the time. (And let me stress, I am NOT suggesting anything untowards on the part of the four students)Classes had been cancelled for some time at that point, the Guard had been on the campus almost as long, and all of these kids lived no more than about two hours from Kent. I have always just wished they would have gone home. They'd have been grandparents now if they had.

BTW...notice how nobody ever seems to talk much about the shootings ten days later at Jackson State University in Mississippi, where the local cops and state troopers really DID go off on a crowd - to the extent of 460 rounds fired and two dead students. The cops took the time to police their brass before leaving things to the Mississippi guard.
There has never been a single arrest or full-dress inquiry into the events at Jackson State, and to me, THAT is a disgrace.

Mike
Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2007-05-02 10:18|| 2007-05-02 10:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Someone call Neil. Its time for a new debut album....What? They don't make albums anymore? WTF? Crosby needs a new liver.

Posted by Crosby, Stills and Nash 2007-05-02 10:25|| 2007-05-02 10:25|| Front Page Top

#9 I heard his tape on the radio this morning coming in, or rather I heard the inconclusive noises on the radio this AM.
If this is considered his smoking gun, then please don't waste my time.

Posted by tu3031 2007-05-02 10:40|| 2007-05-02 10:40|| Front Page Top

#10 I was in HS at the time of the shootings and lived 30 miles south of Kent. Even my completely out of touch with current events mother knew trouble was brewing up there. She absolutely forbid me and my buddies to go to Kent check it out. Next day - blammo!

I'm with Mike - what the hell were the innocent doing hanging around campus?

Posted by GORT 2007-05-02 12:50|| 2007-05-02 12:50|| Front Page Top

#11 I didn't get it at the time, and I still don't get it.
The guards with the rifles are American boys.
What college students are stupid enough to attack them ? At the time, I thought it unfortunate, but nevertheless an attempt to push the guards around which failed.
Actually, the students who died and those with them are guilty. The guard at the time represented police, and attacking them would be anarchistic behavior, which I assume is against the laws of the land. Did this ass who wants the case reopened do jail time yet ?

Posted by wxjames 2007-05-02 13:26|| 2007-05-02 13:26|| Front Page Top

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