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2007-05-02 Home Front: Politix
Guiliani calls for secure borders
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Posted by Fred 2007-05-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Not really. Just buttering up the illegal vote. Fred Thompson is the Pub candidate who is unequivacol on border security. Also firm on allowing self-deportation to work its magic. Of course, Tom Tancredo was there first and Duncan Hunter right behind. Just that Fred commands a lot of name recognition.
Posted by Woozle Elmeter2970 2007-05-02 00:32||   2007-05-02 00:32|| Front Page Top

#2 If name recognition gets your vote, maybe you should stay home, or list the candidates and memorize the names until you recognize them all equally.
Then you will realize that there are differences in what they believe, how they function, and whether they will hurt or help America.
Oh, I know, Fred Thompson did have some good lines in a few movies, but so did Alec Baldwin.
Posted by wxjames 2007-05-02 12:08||   2007-05-02 12:08|| Front Page Top

#3 After reading the statement, I couldn't agree more with Guiliani. His approach shows an organized step by step solution which does not upset countless families and businesses, but establishs registration, payment of fines and taxes, and acceptance that these people actually hold jobs and have value. He emphasizes English speaking and understanding as necessary, and he is correct because a nation of 2 languages is 2 nations, not one United. Guiliani is definitely a problem solver and he has a record to prove it.
Posted by wxjames 2007-05-02 12:19||   2007-05-02 12:19|| Front Page Top

#4 As long as the Mexican ruling caste control Mexico, nothing is going to change. The friggin Communist Chinese government which doesn't have a neighbor to dump 8 million plus of their unemployed chose reform. In ten years they've created more jobs and opportunities for their people than the patrons who've operated Mexico have done in decades. The flood will continue till those who run and operate Mexico are gone along with anyone taking their place knowing that they're next unless they initiate real reform starting with their xenophobic constitution.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-05-02 12:24||   2007-05-02 12:24|| Front Page Top

#5 As long as the Mexican ruling caste control Mexico, nothing is going to change.

You might have the car before the horse. Sealing the border and shutting that political pressure valve might be what it takes to remove the Mexican ruling caste control of Mexico. Every politician has framed the border arguement backwards.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-05-02 13:19||   2007-05-02 13:19|| Front Page Top

#6 I have to agree w/ Rudy's idea; it is logical and so far the only workable one ( IMHO). Trying to round up and throw back the estimated 12 million will not work. Amnesty will not work. So either go with Rudy or ignore the 12 million pound gorilla in the US.
Posted by USN. Ret. 2007-05-02 14:36||   2007-05-02 14:36|| Front Page Top

#7 A lot of them will probably self-deport if they can't work. That means a Social Security card that cannot be forged - DID YOU HEAR THAT MS. PELOSI? MR. REID? - and enforcement actions against employers who don't check. And, yes, Mexico needs to change. The current situation is tragic. I know a lot of Mexicans who are friendly, honest, hard working, fun loving, family oriented people. You can't help but like them when you get to know them. But I don't have time to list here all the problems that illegal immigration creates in this country. As far as I know, Trancredo and Hunter are the only two candidates with any credibility on this issue. They have been saying the same thing for years and I believe they mean it - NO AMNESTY. The bottom line is that any soveriegn nation that wishes to remain soveriegn needs to control immigration instead of just letting it happen the way it does on our southern border.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-05-02 15:40||   2007-05-02 15:40|| Front Page Top

#8 This is going to be painful because the issue has been neglected for so many years. It has actually been ENABLED by both political parties, so I have my doubts that they can do it right this time. Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football thing.

First: Secure the borders. This is like damage control on the ship. Stop the water flooding in. No debate, no compromise. You have a border, enforce it.

Second: Illegals have no rights to free stuff. That means no welfare, medical, etc. Those states that enable this stuff lose their federal funding. THAT will get their attention. Counties like SF better watch it, too.

Third: No Anchor babies allowed. You want to immigrate, fill out the form and get in line like the rest.

Fourth: Severe penalties, both criminal and civil on businesses found hiring illegals. No Social security deductions for them.

Fifth: Provide free transportation back to the place of origin for illegals. Rather than do roundups, just take the financial incentives away. The 12 to 20 million illegals will sort themselves out. If someone wants to give them sanctuary, let them do it on their own nickel.

Sixth: People enabling forgeries of documents can lose their own citizenship, in addition to jail time. That should get some attention.

I agree with EU6305. No Amnesty. We did it before and lost big time. If this congress cannot do the mission, we need to unload them all and find a new crop. This Congress is so corrupted and compromised that it cannot do anything.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2007-05-02 16:48||   2007-05-02 16:48|| Front Page Top

#9 I like AP's strategy. However, I still like round-ups and mass deportations - f*ck'em, quit cloggin up my freeways.
Posted by Broadhead6 2007-05-02 22:23||   2007-05-02 22:23|| Front Page Top

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