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2005-05-15 Fifth Column
Newsweek LIED people DIED
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Posted by CrazyFool 2005-05-15 15:23|| || Front Page|| [11141 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 
But I see they still refuse to name their 'source'
However, they'll continue to use him, CF. :-(
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2005-05-15 15:34||   2005-05-15 15:34|| Front Page Top

#2 Michael Isikoff used to be a pretty decent MSM reporter (as far as that goes...). Sounds like this one got away from them as a "smack W-Rummy" piece and the consequences were catastrophic (at leat for the dead). I'd call for Isikoff and Evan Thomas to be fired for using unnamed sources in manner to damage the nation, clean house and show consequences. OTOH - it's not as if Islamic nutcases needed real evidence to go berserk. See: "Nigerian stolen penises"
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-05-15 15:40||   2005-05-15 15:40|| Front Page Top

#3 If I subscribed to Newsweek (which I don't), I'd cancel my subscription.
Posted by DMFD 2005-05-15 15:46||   2005-05-15 15:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Let us at least celebrate the fact that no Americans died as a result of their activities.

I am certain they are sad about that.
Posted by badanov">badanov  2005-05-15 15:57|| http://www.rkka.org]">[http://www.rkka.org]  2005-05-15 15:57|| Front Page Top

#5 I should give a hat tip to Michelle Malkin [blog link] for the headline and story....
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-05-15 15:59||   2005-05-15 15:59|| Front Page Top

#6 "Newsweek LIED people DIED"

Of course they lied: they're on the side of the enemy.
Posted by Dave D. 2005-05-15 16:24||   2005-05-15 16:24|| Front Page Top

#7 How about some class action on the behalf of the dead? Whatever covers Neewsweek assets--no more Newsweek! Actions have usually consequences and I am affraid these POSes will get away with the crime--conspiracy to commit murder.
Posted by Acrimoniac 2005-05-15 16:42||   2005-05-15 16:42|| Front Page Top

#8 Has anybody even tried a simple experiment to see if it is possible to flush a Koran sized book down a Gitmo type toilet?

Posted by mhw 2005-05-15 16:42||   2005-05-15 16:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Perhaps...... if you 'used' each page one-by-one.

But then (as someone said earlier) why desecrate your poop?
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-05-15 17:01||   2005-05-15 17:01|| Front Page Top

#10 (See "Newsweek Lied, People Died" in section 1)

Newsleak, Sunday May 29, 2005

Lubbock TX

Enraged Tundamentalists Battle Troops, Police Over Desecration Report

During a sermon today at the Mount Antioch Baptist Bible Church, the Reverend Dr. Joe Bob Yarnell called for a "Holy Crusade" in response to unconfirmed media reports that a Texas Tech coed had desecrated a Bible during a graduation party/orgy at a local fraternity house.
Enraged protestors poured from the church, overwhelmed police lines, and rampaged through a nearby neighborhood. A number of Volvos and Volkswagens were burned in the streets. Two ACLU lawyers, rushing to the scene to ensure that Christian rights were respected, were lynched and their bodies hung from lampposts.
The protestors then advanced toward the Texas Tech campus, gathering strength from other churches along the way. The crowd set fire to offending facilities, and battled police and hastily called-up National Guard units.
Suspected infidels were hounded through the streets and a number were caught and burned alive at hastily erected stakes in public parks.
Donzens of head-shops, Starbuck's franchises and intimate apparel outlets were burned to the ground, and many other businesses were looted.
"The Bye-Bull is the sa-kerd word o' Gawd and we ain't lettin' no goddamn hippie fornicators des-ser-cate it. We got titty bars and honky-tonks for that!" declared one rioter protestor as he torched a pile of Playboy magazines outside a looted 7-11 store.
The protest was finally quelled by airborne troops who landed by parachute near the Civic Center. At least 65 people were killed and local hospitals report hundreds of injuries.

"We are naturally sensitive to the concerns of the Christian Community and the protection of its sacred texts," declared Texas Tech president Jon Whitmore during a Sunday evening press conference. "We feel their pain at this horrid allegation and we promise that the alleged graduation party incident will be fully investigated and those responsible, if any, will be punished to the fullest extent of the speech and conduct code."

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-05-15 17:48||   2005-05-15 17:48|| Front Page Top

#11 I wouldn't blame Newsweek. I would blame the source. And the government should use all the legal tools at its disposal to force Newsweek to name the source. Any source that would talk to Newsweek is probably a traitor, anyway. It will be sweet when this guy has to go find a job in the private sector. Of course, it is possible that the reporter made up the story out of thin air. It's not like it hasn't been done before.
Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei  2005-05-15 18:00|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-05-15 18:00|| Front Page Top

#12 Excellent parody. EXCELLENT.

I think the jury's still out on whether or not we will be able to de-toxify Islamic/Arab culture by intruducing democratic self-government. We've got to give it an honest try, giving it all we've got, for at least the duration of Bush's presidency-- if for no other reason than to be able to say, "We tried. We really, REALLY tried."

I'll withold judgement til then; but I'm beginning to suspect we'll end up concluding that these people are incorrigible: that they are hopeless, irredeemable savages who simply cannot be pried from the grip of their baleful moon-god.

And if that's our ultimate conclusion from this "Middle East Democracy" exercise, then God have mercy on these peoples' souls if they ever pull off another mass-casualty terrorist attack on U.S. soil-- because one of the few options remaining to us will be a war that will exterminate one-fifth of this planet's population.
Posted by Dave D. 2005-05-15 18:00||   2005-05-15 18:00|| Front Page Top

#13 It would be both just and proper for Thomas, Barry, and Isikoff to travel to Kabul and directly explain their error to the families who lost love ones in the riots. Also they may want to take along the Muslim detainee who stuffed pages from the Koran down the toilet. I'm sure the Afghans will understand when he explains his purpose.
Posted by GK 2005-05-15 18:02||   2005-05-15 18:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Ice cold, AC. My hat's off to you.
Posted by badanov">badanov  2005-05-15 18:17|| http://www.rkka.org]">[http://www.rkka.org]  2005-05-15 18:17|| Front Page Top

#15 Many thanks, David and Badanov. Sometimes these things just seem to write themselves (should be "Fundamentalists" and "dozens" though). In terms of behavior analysis, taking monstrously disproportionate offense over objectively trivial events is merely a strategy for establishing dominance over others by dictating the minutist aspects of their behavior. We see this every day from drunks and gang members here in the States.

This tendency toward power-seeking authoritarianism is the common-thread that runs through the whole Moonbat continuum, from the institutional media and academic fascists to communism and the Religion of Peace itself.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-05-15 18:40||   2005-05-15 18:40|| Front Page Top

#16 I start off each day by taking a giant shit on a copy of the Qur'an. Then I throw it in a hole in the yard that's filled with cockroaches. The cockroaches seem to enjoy the Qur'an even more than the feces. After my bowels have been relieved, I go outside and lead the neighborhood children in a spirited chant of "Fuck the Qur'an!" But, because I am civilized and not a backwards-minded savage, I do not kill anybody, blow up anything, or set anything on fire. I want to make sure that I remain more rational and restrained than the average muslim.
Posted by Crusader 2005-05-15 18:54||   2005-05-15 18:54|| Front Page Top

#17 The blogs hit this story pretty quickly. When is the MSM gonna realize, there are a lot of very smart people out there watching thier screwups.
Posted by plainslow 2005-05-15 18:55||   2005-05-15 18:55|| Front Page Top

#18 More details here about the story and responses.

According to this article, ...Newsweek apologized in an editor's note for Monday's edition and said they were re-examining the allegations.

"We regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst," Newsweek Editor Mark Whitaker wrote.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-05-15 18:55||   2005-05-15 18:55|| Front Page Top

#19 "We regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst," Newsweek Editor Mark Whitaker wrote."

Well, that begs the question; should their report have turned out to be factually accurate, how would they feel then? Would they think the violence was then somehow justified? I bet they would, because that would reflect their view of the US as the wrongdoer. Which is why they went with the anonymously sourced story in the first place.
Posted by Mark E. 2005-05-15 19:17||   2005-05-15 19:17|| Front Page Top

#20 "...taking monstrously disproportionate offense over objectively trivial events is merely a strategy for establishing dominance over others..."

I call it "strategic victimhood". And its result, I call The Tyranny of the Thin-Skinned.
Posted by Dave D. 2005-05-15 19:28||   2005-05-15 19:28|| Front Page Top

#21 Need to place an ad in Mid-East version of newsweek for toliet paper with the Koran printed on it.

See how Newsweek deals with nuts and fruits coming their way.
Posted by 3dc 2005-05-15 19:40||   2005-05-15 19:40|| Front Page Top

#22 Maybe, just maybe, the people in Afghanistan should contemplate the deaths and frenzy and wonder just how high a price they willingly pay to protest the alleged action of one or two unnamed people in a faraway land. I'm a Christian and I would not be willing to shed even one life to protest the desecration of a Bible, even if I witnessed it firsthand. Why is life so unvalued in Islam?
Posted by Tom 2005-05-15 19:58||   2005-05-15 19:58|| Front Page Top

#23 3dc, I had the same idea. Appeasing this irrational nonsense is not the answer. It will only stop when mooselimbs understand one of our rights is to offend others belief systems religious and otherwise. If a pile of mooselimb corpses is required to learn this lesson then so be it, the blame will clearly lie with those doing the killing and not those doing the offending.
Posted by phil_b 2005-05-15 20:41||   2005-05-15 20:41|| Front Page Top

#24 Reading the story, hearing the news reports, and following this thread I am struck by the universal (???) assumption that there is any logic, as we understand it, present in the current frenzy.

This is an insane ideology being insane, defining it by Western standards. But that's the crux of the biscuit, isn't it?

In terms of what (the non-Moonbat West) value, what we have in common with the frenzied Afghanis and those who are seething elsewhere, the PakiWaki alphabet soup factions, the Zarqis, the Saudi Royals & Wahhabis, the Mahathirs, the Paleos, the MM's, the lot that constitute Islam is so overwhelmingly outweighed by how we differ that it makes no odds. They are from Pluto.

They have a fatal disease. It was inculcated from birth. It knows no bounds, as we understand them. It values that which we revile. It reviles that which we cherish. It is a cult of blame, lies, intolerance, delusion, misogyny, slavery, corruption, oppression, hate, barbarism, brutality, and death. Mankind has dreamt up some amazingly sick, demented, and twisted shit, but this cult has earned a unique status: it is the ultimate bottom-feeder.

It is Islam.

*spit*
Posted by .com 2005-05-15 21:27||   2005-05-15 21:27|| Front Page Top

#25 "Mankind has dreamt up some amazingly sick, demented, and twisted shit, but this cult has earned a unique status: it is the ultimate bottom-feeder. It is Islam."

Over the last couple of days, I've come to the same conclusion. It's going to be either us, or this demented murder cult. It will not abide us nor we, it. It's going to be a fight to the death.

"They are from Pluto."

Nah. They're from the planet Anus-- a buncha assholes.
Posted by Dave D. 2005-05-15 21:49||   2005-05-15 21:49|| Front Page Top

#26 We are a nation at war. Michael Isikoff and John Barry through their own willful negligence caused deliberate peril for our soldiers in Afghanistan. The Attorney General should have both creeps arrested and tried for sabotage.

The Newsweek owner, Donald (?) Graham Jr. should be fined $1 Million MINIMUM and that fine $ should be immediately handed to the President of Afghanistan to be distributed to the families of the victims. Graham Jr. should also be required to publish a special edition of Newsweek, published in Afghan language, the various Arab languages with his ugly mutt face on the cover along with Izzie's and Barry's with a headline "We lied-it's our fault."

The Afghans are primitive people. They don't have much of importance in their lives except their religion. They were led to believe by the American press ( not their "crazy" mullahs) that American soldiers descecrated the only thing of value to them. You may not think the Koran is valuable. They do. We are trying to gain the trust of these primitive people, and humiliating them is not a productive way to reach that goal. The Newsweek publisher and journalists are educated. They knew exactly the consequences of their article, never mind that it was a lie. Those 3 people caused the deaths of Afghans and put our GI's lives in danger. They should be made to pay big time.

The "Mooslims" as some of you like to refer to them are not the bad guys in this scenario - it's Michael Isikoff and John Barry and Mr. Graham Jr. who are the scumbags.

Posted by oxforded 2005-05-15 22:02||   2005-05-15 22:02|| Front Page Top

#27 The rioters rioted because they were told to by their leaders, who were told to lead the riots by their leaders. I hold the Learned Elders of Islam™ and dedicated enemies of America and the West responsible, not Newsweek.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-05-15 22:09||   2005-05-15 22:09|| Front Page Top

#28 excuse me? When have Catholics and Presbyterians rioted like this? To claim a moral equivalence is assinine, but expected from loser academics and fellow travelers. Where were the christian world riots over the Paleos pising in the Church of the Nativity? Only teh self-proclaimed Religion of Pieces Peace says one thing and kills another
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-05-15 22:20||   2005-05-15 22:20|| Front Page Top

#29 If this story had turned out to be true (and it still may, for all we know), there'd be swarms of moonbats wringing their hands over the terrible crimes of the Bush administration, who should have known that desecrating a Koran would lead to bloodshed somewhere in the world.

And all the regulars here would've said, "Fuck that shit. The administration can't be responsible for the obsessions of a bunch of savages. The hand-wringers are only using this situation to smear Bush."

And they'd be exactly right. And it's the same damned thing here, except that some people are using this situation to smear the media.

Now, I agree that Newsweek published this story without sufficient confirmation, and did so gleefully in order to (in the most charitable interpretation) fulfill their if-it-bleeds-it-leads agenda. But that doesn't make them responsible for the deaths, any more than it would make Bush or the military responsible if the story were true.

Let's keep our eyes on the real adversary here, people. And it ain't the media, despite their efforts to demonstrate otherwise. Damn it.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-05-15 22:35|| http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]">[http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2005-05-15 22:35|| Front Page Top

#30 Angie: Begging to differ but you are wrong.

Newsweak did not report the news. They lied. They told a fib without regard to the consequences and endangered soldiers in the field, OUR SOLDIERS. Fonda got a pass for essentially placing military people in further danger, but I do not believe Newsweak should get one.

This is fifth column activities. They should answer for this lie.
Posted by badanov">badanov  2005-05-15 22:49|| http://www.rkka.org]">[http://www.rkka.org]  2005-05-15 22:49|| Front Page Top

#31 Now, I agree that Newsweek published this story without sufficient confirmation, and did so gleefully in order to (in the most charitable interpretation) fulfill their if-it-bleeds-it-leads agenda. But that doesn't make them responsible for the deaths,

I beg toi differ with you, Angie. This was more than sloppy journalism. This was conscious sabotage while a nation is at war. The Newsweek publisher and the journalists could reasonably predict what the consequences of this story would be in terms of peril to our soldiers at the very least. They should be facing jail time and heavy fines. War demands a higher standard than "if it bleeds, it leads." If this happened in WWII, FDR would have sent these 3 news sluts to the brig.

excuse me? When have Catholics and Presbyterians rioted like this?
Duh...maybe in the 7th century??? That's where these people are at. Hey if it were up to me, I would have let them continue play soccer with human heads, but it just so happened that our gov't is experimenting with democracy in Afghanistan and that means we need to build trust in these primitives. That the Afghans are primitives is a given. Newseek knows full wel that these people can be ferocious - did we not see the Afghans beat the Russkies to a pulp? These people have a short fuse, and don't tell well heeled journalists like Barry and Isikoff did not know rhwy were striking matches in a volatile area of the world.

"The fellow travellers" at Newsweek you speak of, Frank,are not my friends - maybe yours???- you seem to want to go to the wall to defend obvious criminal behavior at a time of war.
Posted by Snoluth Snineck5289 2005-05-15 22:54||   2005-05-15 22:54|| Front Page Top

#32 A reasonable consequence of opening a bank is that it will be robbed. That is not an argument for not opening the bank, nor does it make the bank manager responsible for the robbery. I am one of the first to go after the MSM, but in this case blaming them is asinine stupidity. Do we make them pay for Kyoto, becuase they have been pushing it? The logic is bizzare.
Posted by phil_b 2005-05-15 23:41||   2005-05-15 23:41|| Front Page Top

#33 I, for one, am so incredibly grateful that Snowplow Schnickerdoodle is here to save our humanity. The ice is so very thin hereabouts.

Without this brave soul, wading in and wielding a scalpel-like insight, so deeply moving and sagacious I needed scuba gear to plumb the depths of the wisdom imparted, we'd all be lost. No, worse, we'd be Doomed! Doomed I say!

I humbly thank you.
Posted by .com 2005-05-15 23:42||   2005-05-15 23:42|| Front Page Top

#34 I dont think this was 'sloppy' news reporting. Newsweek must have known what the effect this story would have had in the middle east -- these are professionals who know full well what they are doing. As professionals they should be held to a higher standard then, for example, eddie the bartender down at the local tavern.

That they took the word of a 'unnamed source' (who they continue to protect) with a couple of DOD 'officals' who did not verify the story (lack of denial does not consitute verification).

That they continue to refuse to reveal their source. And, for all we know, will continue to use this source even knowing that his/her information is tainted. is inexcusable. I could understand their wanting to protect a confidential source but this is not a reliable source.

In fact this sounds like the story was deliberately planted with the sole intent of causing problems. If newsweek was simply a stooge or a willing co-conspirator (and their protection of their source leans toward the latter) should be investigated.

Lets not forget that deaths can be directly linked to this story. I find it amazing that the MSM soddomized the prison abuse (panties on head) dead horse for over a year yet barely mention this where innocent people have died.

But again, I dont know why I should be suprised that the MSM hasn't seen a dead (or humiliated) terrorist they didn't love and hasn't seen a dead innocent civilian ( Iraq / Afghanistan / Isreal ) they could give a rats ass about.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-05-15 23:52||   2005-05-15 23:52|| Front Page Top

#35 What does opening a bank analogy have to do with an act of willful negligence for financial gain during a time of war? Maybe if more GI's were killed rather than having their lives endangered you would see the criminal consequences of Newsweek's over the line behavior, Phil?

Izzie and barry published a lie that will continue to have repercussions in our GIs dealings with the Afghans for many months to come. There lie was based on a single unverified anonymous source. To not see the criminal negligence in printing this article is beyond me. Maybe check the military websites and see what military people and their families think about Michael Isikoff and John Barry and Mr. Graham Jr. What these 3 news sluts did in terms of damage to our GIs ability to interact with native Muslims of occupied countries is no different than what the loose cannon MP's did in Abu Gra.
Posted by Snoluth Snineck5289 2005-05-16 00:04||   2005-05-16 00:04|| Front Page Top

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