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2006-05-11 Africa Horn

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Posted by Steve 2006-05-11 08:20|| || Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 With Cessnas.

Posted by Omalet Whetle9525 2006-05-11 10:59|| 2006-05-11 10:59|| Front Page Top

#2 yeah this debka report is one where you need a lorry load and not just a pinch of salt, i cant see armour going there but hey you never know - what with the increasing stupidity of many so called allies of ours who's to say they might not allow passage of materials and sht to sudan if it were to cause the US and its allies hassle. Course dont forget that if they did move into Sudan in strength with every intention of causing trouble whos gonna stop them - kofi?? lol. Nope way i see it they can do what they like with near totall immunity from the 'international comunity'. aslong as the Iranians dont use the atom bombs they have/are building then nothing what so ever will be done about them by anyone. We have been played like chumps by the Iranians and the 'west' has no bottle or reserve to deal with them anymore. Way to go 'west' ,our own complacency has got us in a real sht situation here! I give up on anyone actually doing anything about them, after watching the Iranian affair develop over the previous years i think one would have to be very either foolish or super optimistic to actually think anyone, even like GWB will actually do anything about it. They won we lost. :(

Posted by ShepUK 2006-05-11 11:38|| 2006-05-11 11:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't an Iranian armord brigade have T-72s. Don't you need something like a C-5, C-17 or the big Antonov to move them by air? I did not realize Iran could do this either. Not sure it's a smart move.

Posted by JAB 2006-05-11 12:00|| 2006-05-11 12:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Keep in mind that an "armored" unit in sub-Saharan Africa is likely a Toyota pickup with a 50-cal and some diamond plate.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-05-11 12:01|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-05-11 12:01|| Front Page Top

#5 these Iranian Revolutionary Guards may claim to be looking eastward but they might well be looking westward and preparing to aid the janjaweed if/when hostilities break out again in durfar

Posted by mhw 2006-05-11 12:41|| 2006-05-11 12:41|| Front Page Top

#6 Who knows, they might be planning to help out the Muslim brotherhood to the North. Egypt is ripe for some kind of trouble these days.

Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz 2006-05-11 13:33|| 2006-05-11 13:33|| Front Page Top

#7 they will be working with absolutly anyone they can find who has some grudge against the US and israel and the 'west'. I wouldnt mind betting the tanks will arrive in Sudan on either charted russian military transports or simply shipped by seafrom Iran whilst the troops will arrive there by airlift. The more i think about this actually the more credable it seems. Hell they (the iranians) would be dense not to try and expand thier area of influence with there current goals of destroying israel and the US and britain, hell if i were in his shoes i'd be looking to find other areas from which to mount attacks. Personally i dont give a flying fck about Sudan anyway and the clooneys of the world , we did the same thing as they propose in Sudan in Iraq and yet that was 'wrong' according to the clooneys of this world. perhaps clooney can ask the Iranians to be the peace keepers........

Posted by ShepUK 2006-05-11 13:54|| 2006-05-11 13:54|| Front Page Top

#8 The light just dawned. Just a few days ago, the Sudan offered to protect and store nuclear parts for Iran.

I suspect these guyz are down there to keep unauthorized hands off of their stuff. Especially Sudanese who might double cross them for a large remittance from some unnamed power.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-11 14:03|| 2006-05-11 14:03|| Front Page Top

#9 Any bets on when these lads will begin to show up in Gaza?

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-11 14:06|| 2006-05-11 14:06|| Front Page Top

#10 targets of opportunity. Inflict some anti-tank humiliation on them and their Khartoum bedmates

Posted by Frank G 2006-05-11 14:07|| 2006-05-11 14:07|| Front Page Top

#11 More Sudan - Iran links:
SUDAN, IRAN BOOST TIES - April 26

Sudan's President Umar Hasan Al-Bashir is ending his three-day visit to Iran on Wednesday. Top officials from both sides are discussing ways to advance their bilateral relations, as well as key regional and international developments, according to a report from Iran's official news agency IRNA. "The Sudanese government and people praise Iran's success in the field of nuclear energy," said Al-Bashir. He then called for further bolstering of the economic cooperation between the two countries.

On his part, Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said several measures had been adopted by Iran to activate the two countries' joint commission and that President Mahmoud Ahmadi Nejad had issued instructions to concerned ministers toward this end. The Media Line's analysts point out that the visit comes to serve both countries' interests, as Iran is looking for international support for its nuclear plan, and Sudan is in urgent need of financial aid in its Darfur crisis.

Iran Says It Will Share Nuclear Skills
TEHRAN, April 25Iran's supreme leader said today in a meeting with the Sudanese president that Iran was ready to share its nuclear technology with other countries. "Iran's nuclear capability is one example of various scientific capabilities in the country. The Islamic Republic of Iran is prepared to transfer the experience, knowledge and technology of its scientists," said the supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to President Omar al-Bashir of Sudan, IRNA news agency reported.

Mr. Khamenei's comments to the leader of Sudan, one of the most unstable countries in Africa, came a few days ahead of the Friday deadline by the United Nations Security Council for Iran to suspend its sensitive uranium enrichment activities.

And let's not forget Iran' puppet:
Sudan mediates to ease tension between Lebanon and Syria
Sudanese presidential advisor Mustapha Othman Ismail was in Damascus on Wednesday were he handed to president Bashar AlAssad a letter from president Omar al-Bashir detailing the mission to help improve Lebanese-Syrian ties, which strongly deteriorated after the assassination of former premier Rafiq Hariri. Ismail said "We are very interested to continue our role in removing all obstacles between the two countries since both sides agree that relations should be special. I will later visit Beirut. "

The Sudanese envoy confirmed Syria's interest in its mediation after meeting foreign minister Walid Muaallim.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2006-05-11 14:31|| 2006-05-11 14:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Doesn't Binny have big plans for Sudan? Alliance?

Posted by Captain America 2006-05-11 17:24|| 2006-05-11 17:24|| Front Page Top

#13 From Global Security:

The IIGF operated almost 1,000 medium tanks in 1986. Although a large number were British-made Chieftains and American-made M-60s, an undetermined number of Soviet-made T-54 and T-55s, T-59s, T-62s, and T-72s were also part of the inventory, all captured from the Iraqis or acquired from North Korea and China. There was also a complement of fifty British-made Scorpion light tanks. Several hundred Urutu and Cascavel armored fighting vehicles from Brazil joined American-made M-113s and Soviet-made BTR-50-60s...

In 1989, Iran bought armoured personnel carriers, multiple rocket launch systems (MLRS), and 100 T-72 MBTs. In 1993, Iran went into negotiations with Russia for 400 T-42 MBts, and the necessay training and equipment, and 500 BMP-s Armoured Infantry Fighting Vehicles (AIFVs). During FY92, Iran procured 150 BMP-1 AIFVs and 30 Chinese 152mm Type 83 towed artillery.

Likely it isn't MBTs.

Posted by Pappy 2006-05-11 18:59|| 2006-05-11 18:59|| Front Page Top

#14 Pappy you r right on that but the current readiness levels of the armor is at less than 50%. The crap is just sitting in their motor pools rotting from the budget cuts a few years back. They have been focusing on irregular forces in the RG and I assume its like RC stated that it is toyota trucks with steel panels. I would love to find the RG unit number to look them up and find out their mission sets. My best guess is that they are there to teach unconventional warfare to the Sudanese and to build a force to fight Israel on another front.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-11 21:26|| 2006-05-11 21:26|| Front Page Top

#15 "OK so, you do massive human wave assaults - a lotta you die, then you withdraw....later on you do the same thing"

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-05-11 21:43|| 2006-05-11 21:43|| Front Page Top

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