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2007-05-06 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Will secret talks lead to Mideast breakthrough?

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-05-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 a Jordanian guarantee that a future Palestine will not rise up against it.

That and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee. Islamic perfidy knows no bounds. Trust Jordan as fas a you can throw it. No recognition of Israel, no renouncement of terrorism, NO DEAL.

One interim solution is to deploy the 20,000 strong Palestinian Badr Brigade, currently based in Jordan, to the West Bank. Founded in the 1960s to fight Israel, the Badr Brigade is trained by Jordan and answers directly to Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas.

Import 20,000 more terrorists. Yeah sure, that's gonna be a big help. What sort of super-crack are these idiots smoking? The Palestinians simply have to go. There can be no expectation of any lasting peace between them and Israel. Gaza and the West Bank need to be flushed out into Jordan and Lebanon and to hell with any objections from the Pan-Arab community. This tiresome charade lost all promise of hope a long time ago. End it now.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-06 00:20|| 2007-05-06 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Secret talks betwen Israeli and Indian microbiologists might.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-05-06 01:44|| 2007-05-06 01:44|| Front Page Top

#3 The problem as I see it is that nobody speaks for "the Palestinians". So imagine they declare a state, Jordan enters a confederation, guarantees security, Israel withdraws and then Syrian-backed Palestinian Islamic Jihad begins a suicide bombing campaign or rocket attacks from the West Bank anyway.

What then?

In order for this to work, the main organizations would need to disband and I don't see that happening. The leadership of the PIJ isn't going to give up their power nor are the leaders of Hamas or Fatah.

What has to happen at some point is someone needs to take control of the Palestinians and be the one entity that can be bargained with. Right now, nobody can make promises for "the Palestinians" because there are too many loose cannons.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-05-06 01:49|| 2007-05-06 01:49|| Front Page Top

#4 The Palestinians speak just fine for the Palestinians. King Abdullah can't control the Palestinians within his borders, what odds he'll control -- rather than abet -- the Palestinians in the Territories. Look what a bang up job the Egyptians are doing in their area of responsibility -- as they facilitate the movement of arms and supplies across their border. And where do the Palestinian tunnels get the supplies for air conditioned, paved and lighted tunnels that end up near Egyptian army supply depots?

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-06 07:15|| 2007-05-06 07:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Why, TW, I thought everyone knew - all that good stuff comes from funds the Euros and UN send for sewage treatment plants and other icky infrastructure stuff.

Posted by Bobby 2007-05-06 07:54|| 2007-05-06 07:54|| Front Page Top

#6 I can't believe Jordan would want to get any closer to the Paleos. Jordan knows they are nothing but trouble, and ungovernable. Besides, selling out the Paleos is an Arab tradition.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2007-05-06 08:37|| 2007-05-06 08:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Maybe that's the whole idea, close enough to cheat them, no closer.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-05-06 09:22|| 2007-05-06 09:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Jordan and Israel have shared close military and intelligence ties since the two states signed a peace accord which lifted all responsibility and liability for Amman, due to their stinky kidz.

Posted by Shipman">Shipman 2007-05-06 10:00|| 2007-05-06 10:00|| Front Page Top

#9 However, the brigade's staunch affiliation with the PLO and the Fatah party could spark additional unrest between the dueling Hamas and Fatah factions

Yes but what's the downside?

Posted by Sonar 2007-05-06 19:02|| 2007-05-06 19:02|| Front Page Top

#10 Self-determination is difficult when you're not a nation, crosspatch.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-05-06 19:13|| 2007-05-06 19:13|| Front Page Top

#11 Why, TW, I thought everyone knew -

Bobby dear, that there was one more proof that I have no understanding whatsoever of matters financial. Oh, well.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-06 19:39|| 2007-05-06 19:39|| Front Page Top

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