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2006-05-05 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by ed 2006-05-05 13:57|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 got tired of fighting the CIA traitors and Clintonistas?

Posted by Frank G 2006-05-05 14:02|| 2006-05-05 14:02|| Front Page Top

#2 I wonder if this sudden resignation has anything to do with the Poker and Pros allegations?

Unfortunately, the rogues in the CIA just received a temporary reprieve (fuckers).

Posted by danking_70 2006-05-05 14:19|| 2006-05-05 14:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Hmmmm... I just got an idea. A way to solve two problems at once. Bolton was a recess nominee, right?

Nominate Bolton to replace Goss. Let Regis clean house THERE.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-05-05 14:28|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-05-05 14:28|| Front Page Top

#4 Rantburg has previously nominated Bolton to this position. Lets see if it carries the day!

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-05 14:30|| 2006-05-05 14:30|| Front Page Top

#5 waiting for the other shoes to drop...

Posted by RD 2006-05-05 14:50|| 2006-05-05 14:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Negroponte wants his own guy, in all probability. Goss and his people may have been too much of an embarrassment. Going after Pillar was one thing, alienating almost the entire agency another. Youve got to pick your targets, and be smooth about it. From what I can gather, Goss was not.

Bolton may not get this, but dont worry, it wont go to a liberal of any sort.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2006-05-05 14:52|| 2006-05-05 14:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Richard Armitage you are needed once again, where are you?

http://www.saag.org/papers3/paper204.htm

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-05 14:55|| 2006-05-05 14:55|| Front Page Top

#8 This is a very bad sign. This indicates that Goss is either incapable or unwilling to continue to clean house and get the CIA back to what it was originally intended to be. Either reason is not good for the American people. I hope Bush can find someone as mean and nasty as John Bolton to run the CIA. Maybe the guy that's in charge of NSA can come over and clean house.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-05-05 15:01|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-05 15:01|| Front Page Top

#9 I can't believe Goss would have gotten involved in anything at the Watergate. I suspect he just got fed up with the internal Klingon bureaucracy. I also smell a bit of Ponte here, and that ain't so very good.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-05 15:05|| 2006-05-05 15:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Hmmm, wonder Rummy could clean house there. And wouldn't that make the liberals freak. Actually, I'm interested in hearing who OldSpook recommends for the job as I think he'd have a better sense of who might be best for it.

Karl Rove maybe?

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2006-05-05 15:10|| 2006-05-05 15:10|| Front Page Top

#11 A few weeks ago, there were hints one of Goss's deputies and friend was implicated in the Cunningham bribery scandal. Could be more to that story.

Posted by ed 2006-05-05 15:13|| 2006-05-05 15:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Maybe the guy that's in charge of NSA can come over and clean house.

Stephen Hadley, a Rice protege. His name occured to me to. Not sure if he has the bureucratic skills for this, but there could be plenty worse choices.

Hmmm, wonder Rummy could clean house there.

LOL!!! Well it least it would get him out of DoD :) I cant say as Id mind. Though it would bring up all kinds of issues with defense Intell. Anyway Negroponte would never stand for it.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2006-05-05 15:13|| 2006-05-05 15:13|| Front Page Top

#13 My bet is fingers in the till. That's why the #3 was fired and he was a Goss man with Cunningham links.

Bush should make the next DCI military to assure integrity. Tommy Franks? Spook 86 mentions Mike Hayden.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-05 15:16|| 2006-05-05 15:16|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm with Besoeker...Bring back Dick!

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-05-05 15:16|| 2006-05-05 15:16|| Front Page Top

#15 FormerSpook is suggesting
To avoid that, President Bush should consider the appointment of an experienced intelligence manager who could move into the job quickly and seamlessly. IMO, one of the few men who could do that is the current Deputy Director of National Intelligence, General Mike Hayden. General Hayden isn't a CIA veteran, but he was extremely effective as Director of NSA for more than five years. During his tenure at Ft Meade, he reformed and reshaped that agency, clearing out bureaucratic deadwood, and boosting agency morale.

At a critical juncture in its history, General Hayden just might be the right man for the job.

Posted by 3dc 2006-05-05 15:22|| 2006-05-05 15:22|| Front Page Top

#16 You know, it occurs to me that the agency probalby does need a disciplinarian to whip it into shape. Finding someone with those characteristics who will also be acceptable to the Dems will be hard.

Thankfully, there is someone who fits both of those qualities: the junior senator from New York...

Posted by Phil 2006-05-05 15:29|| 2006-05-05 15:29|| Front Page Top

#17 General Hayden would be a superb pick as well.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-05 15:32|| 2006-05-05 15:32|| Front Page Top

#18 General Tommy Franks would spit up his chew and hang up the phone, maybe jerk it out of the wall. You'll never get him outta Texas.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-05 15:33|| 2006-05-05 15:33|| Front Page Top

#19 Just saw the TV clip. It's not fingers in the till. But very curious.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-05 15:34|| 2006-05-05 15:34|| Front Page Top

#20 great...aother FBI files scandal

Posted by Frank G 2006-05-05 15:35|| 2006-05-05 15:35|| Front Page Top

#21 great...aother FBI files scandal

???

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-05-05 15:52|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-05-05 15:52|| Front Page Top

#22 Heh Phil.

Posted by 6 2006-05-05 16:19|| 2006-05-05 16:19|| Front Page Top

#23 Hayden is viable. Hadley would be a disaster.

Goss resigned because he's burned out - and they are trying to set him up for a scandal. The CIA old-boys war against the Bush administration continnues from within the IG office apparently. When your internal "police" unit goes rogue, you're cooked. I'd say chop up CIA, hand the parts to DoD (DIA, SOCOM), NSA, NRO, NGO.

All IMHO of course.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-05-05 17:24|| 2006-05-05 17:24|| Front Page Top

#24 Oh and one other thing: Goss may be able to file and enter the sentorial race in Florida. To undercut ol' hatchetface who will lose the general election. Goss can beat Nelson.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-05-05 17:25|| 2006-05-05 17:25|| Front Page Top

#25 OldSpook -- your theory sounds most likely.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-05-05 17:42|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-05-05 17:42|| Front Page Top

#26 OS's option makes one wonder if that has been the plan from the start. Create the DNI to act as the central control/clearing house. Then carve up CIA and distribute the operational parts to the relevant existing agency, leaving only an open source analytic unit at Langley. Have all final analysis and Presidential briefings done by new staff units at DNI.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-05 17:56|| 2006-05-05 17:56|| Front Page Top

#27 Does the DNI control funding for the CIA?

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2006-05-05 18:03|| 2006-05-05 18:03|| Front Page Top

#28 I don't believe Ponte got the purse strings to the agency. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty certain it's still the way it was prior to the establishment of the DNI.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-05 18:07|| 2006-05-05 18:07|| Front Page Top

#29 FoxNews says Gen Hayden is the "front runner" for the job.

I would feel about 100x better if the CIA WAS dismantled and the operations and sensitive bits moved into other, military-run, agencies. There's politicization there, too, but it seems to be under far better control among serving personnel. Disgruntled retirees are obviously another matter.

Posted by Angoluns Whomoth2413 2006-05-05 18:07|| 2006-05-05 18:07|| Front Page Top

#30 Start by defunding the IG shop big time and installing a military Director. I hope Goss passed on the results of all those recent polygraphs to a responsible steward.

Posted by asymmetrical triangulation">asymmetrical triangulation 2006-05-05 18:31|| 2006-05-05 18:31|| Front Page Top

#31 Yes, indeed. Wouldn't the periodic polygraph report being a most interesting read. One can only guess how many "failed" or "inconclusives" they've got roaming the halls. Time for that organization to undergo an enema.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-05-05 18:37|| 2006-05-05 18:37|| Front Page Top

#32 I would feel about 100x better if the CIA WAS dismantled

I'd be happy if they simply decided they were on OUR side. Or maybe not. I realize they are in a tough business and people tend to remember mistakes like missing the collapse of the fUSSR, but the CIA doesn't seem to exactly have a reputation for success.

Posted by SteveS 2006-05-05 21:08|| 2006-05-05 21:08|| Front Page Top

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