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2003-04-30 Middle East

Hamas chief rejects peace plan, vows more attacks

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Posted by Tadderly 2003-04-30 11:56 am|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It will take a Paleo civil war before they are ready for peace

Posted by Frank G 2003-04-30 12:00:34|| 2003-04-30 12:00:34|| Front Page Top

#2 Ok, the "Road Map" is a non-starter. Hamas obviously prefers the current state of "occupation". Let's see if they're ready for talks after, say, another 5 years or so.

In the meantime the IDF will have a free hand to track, capture, or kill the Palestinian criminals. Works for me...

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2003-04-30 12:03:31|| 2003-04-30 12:03:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Hamas and Islamic Jihad need to become Road Kill.

Posted by Steve 2003-04-30 12:16:11|| 2003-04-30 12:16:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Talking about a Palistinian state or negotiating with Abbas is not only a waste, but is counterproductive until Hamas, Hez, and their merry men are taken out and the financial sources are dried up. We cannot reward terrorists by negotiating. That requires a sense of goodwill, even a bit. And there is nothing here.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-04-30 13:23:55|| 2003-04-30 13:23:55|| Front Page Top

#5 "Loose the hounds!"

These bozos need a good, solid taste of their own medicine, boys.

Posted by mojo 2003-04-30 14:01:45|| 2003-04-30 14:01:45|| Front Page Top

#6 I have just come across some interesting reading about the Qur'an (or whatever the correct spelling is). The German Arabist Christoph Luxenberg has studied the syro-aramaic roots of the Islamic Holy Book. The earliest manuscripts of the Qur'an are written in a very defective way, the Arab writing wasn't yet very sophisticated, so many words read the same (no diacritic signs yet). The most alarming find for wannabe jihadis should be the fact that the "huris", the virgins every jihadi is entitled to, are actually "white grapes".

Blowing yourself up for a handful of grapes? Hmmmmmmm. Abdul, can't we log on to that Adult Friend Finder Service instead??

Btw Luxenberg is an alias. The guy does know why he uses one.

Posted by True German Ally 2003-04-30 15:06:12|| 2003-04-30 15:06:12|| Front Page Top

#7 Hee hee... i can see it now guys,

The scene: minaret studded paradise in the clouds. 18-year old Achmed is finally meeting Muhammed himself....

M: Well, Achmed you have fulfilled the rites of true martyrdom, and have earned this, your just reward...
A: umm, great one, I am honored, but this is a bunch of grapes.
M: Correct, my son! And you will find none finer in all the universe!
A: Please forgive me for my impertinance, great one, but what about the umm, you know, the umm...virgins?
M: Oh yes, them! They are right in this chamber here, awaiting you to join them. (opens an ornate door...)
A: Again, I must beg your forgiveness, exalted one, but there are only men in here?
M: Yes, indeed my child. And i assure you that they are all virgins, too. that is what happens when you waste the most productive years of your divinely granted lives in the insane pursuit of hatred, death and terror, rather than trying to improve yourselves or your community, or make the world a better place, or meet some girls and get married. Just have a seat next to Hafiz there, and enjoy your grapes.
A: (stammering) B-b-bb-but, that's it, then?
M: Well, there's one more bit of wisdom i can impart to you - Eat slowly, stretching 70 "huris" out over the course of Eternity can be a very difficult task.

sorry about the length guys, but I was having fun....

Posted by dripping sarcasm 2003-04-30 16:45:34|| 2003-04-30 16:45:34|| Front Page Top

#8 TGA, I was under the impression that "huri" was related to the English word "whore"; both originating in the East and meaning "black eyed girl"...

Posted by Bulldog 2003-04-30 16:46:58|| 2003-04-30 16:46:58|| Front Page Top

#9 ...But then I can't find any evidence to support that belief. Maybe I was daydreaming. About black eyed girls. Mmmmm....

Posted by Bulldog 2003-04-30 16:53:55|| 2003-04-30 16:53:55|| Front Page Top

#10 Ahh yes, from Chambers: houri, n a nymph of the Muslim paradise; a voluptuously alluring woman [Persian huri, from Arabic huriya a black-eyed girl]. No link to whore though.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-04-30 17:08:43|| 2003-04-30 17:08:43|| Front Page Top

#11 The problem is that old written syriac-aramaic (which latter Arab generations actually didn't fully understand anymore) is written without any vocals and many letters looked very much the same. The word in question is "hur" (surah 44 and 52), which originally meant "white grapes"
And what about the eyes? Well the word "in" means eye, but was used in metaphorical sense to mean "like pearls". So what's the reward for the warriors? "white grapes like pearls", not "big eyed virgins".

Some linguistic reading can really ruin your eternity.

Posted by True German Ally 2003-04-30 18:49:01|| 2003-04-30 18:49:01|| Front Page Top

#12 TGA - Little Green Footballs has been on that for a while, and usually refer to the 72 virgins as 72 raisins....kinda makes one lose enthusiasm as a splodeydope, huh?

Posted by Frank G 2003-04-30 21:58:51|| 2003-04-30 21:58:51|| Front Page Top

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