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2011-04-27 Afghanistan
Breaking: Deaths in Kabul airport military spat
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Posted by phil_b 2011-04-27 04:47|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 Eight ISAF troops and a contractor killed. Taliban claims responsibility.
Posted by Glenmore 2011-04-27 09:00||   2011-04-27 09:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Were the ISAF personnel armed?
Posted by Zhang Fei 2011-04-27 09:29||   2011-04-27 09:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Were the ISAF personnel armed?

Somebody must have been armed, Zhang Fe, because somebody killed him.

Ay Pee adds that five Afghan troops were also wounded, at least one by bullet, the rest while escaping the building. The shooter is 50-year old from Kabul, Ahmad Gul, who has been an Afghan air force pilot for 20 years.

Separately, that CIA analysis of cultural differences appears to have been spot on. The BBC story says there was a disagreement in the meeting, and in response Mr. Gul commenced shooting.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-04-27 10:33||   2011-04-27 10:33|| Front Page Top

#4 ...One of my wife's high school classmates - a Marine aviator - was in the building when it happened. He got word out to everybody that he was okay, and it was very, very bad.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2011-04-27 13:19||   2011-04-27 13:19|| Front Page Top

#5 Seriously, after ten frigging years the Afghans still prove to be too worthless to save. Do any Rantburgers actually think we are accomplishing anything in Afghanistan that is worth the blood and money?
Posted by Penguin 2011-04-27 13:27||   2011-04-27 13:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Seriously, after ten frigging years the Afghans still prove to be too worthless to save. Do any Rantburgers actually think we are accomplishing anything in Afghanistan that is worth the blood and money?

I don't think it's too worthless to save. I just don't believe that US troops are necessary to do it. Get us out of there and give Karzai a $5b* annual stipend to keep it together. Najibullah kept the country going for 3 years after the Soviet withdrawal until Yeltsin imposed an oil embargo:

The civil war continued in Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal. The Soviet Union left Afghanistan deep in winter, with intimations of panic among Kabul officials. The Afghan mujahideen were poised to attack provincial towns and cities and eventually Kabul, if necessary.

Najibullah's regime, though failing to win popular support, territory, or international recognition, was however able to remain in power until 1992. Ironically, until demoralized by the defections of its senior officers, the Afghan Army had achieved a level of performance it had never reached under direct Soviet tutelage. Kabul had achieved a stalemate that exposed the mujahideen's weaknesses, political and military. But for nearly three years, while Najibullah's government successfully defended itself against mujahideen attacks, factions within the government had also developed connections with its opponents.

According to Russian publicist Andrey Karaulov, the main trigger for Najibullah losing power was Russia's refusal to sell oil products to Afghanistan in 1992 for political reasons (the new Yeltsin government did not want to support the former communists), which effectively triggered an embargo. The defection of General Abdul Rashid Dostam and his Uzbek militia, in March 1992, further undermined Najibullah's control of the state. In April, Najibullah and his communist government fell to the mujahideen, who replaced Najibullah with a new governing council for the country.

* Pakistan's entire 2010 defense budget was $6.4B
Posted by Zhang Fei 2011-04-27 19:24||   2011-04-27 19:24|| Front Page Top

#7 "Pakistan's entire 2010 defense budget was US$6.4Bilyuhn".

I'm a'guessin they'll still want this ...

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > PAKISTAN EXPECTS US$986.0 MILYUHN FROM US BY JUNE, as per Kerry-LugarBerman Act, + exclusive of another US$500-600.0MILYUHN expected vee Coalition Support Fund.

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ION SAME > INSTANBUL'S CRAZY PROJECT! Proposed "Canal Instanbul" project thru Instanbul outskirts, + connecting the Sea of Marmara wid the Aegean. It is deemed to be the biggest contrux project the World will see since the SUEZ + PANAMA CANALS, + will facilitate the movement of Turkish Navy warships [Army troops?]to the Black Sea in case of conflict.

Yoohoo, paging POTUS Teddy Roosevelt.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-04-27 23:39||   2011-04-27 23:39|| Front Page Top

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