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2007-04-25 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Lethal Injection No Good - It Can Cause Pain Before Death
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Posted by Bobby 2007-04-25 06:23|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Guess we'll just have to go back to hanging, then.
Posted by Mike 2007-04-25 07:24||   2007-04-25 07:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Mike - you mean, off with his head!;)
Posted by Spot">Spot  2007-04-25 08:36||   2007-04-25 08:36|| Front Page Top

#3 Try Drano.
Posted by ed 2007-04-25 08:54||   2007-04-25 08:54|| Front Page Top

#4 But 11 states have suspended its use after opponents alleged it is ineffective and cruel.

Another example of the imperial judiciary and their anti-democratic allies ignoring what the Founders meant by cruel and unusual. Remember a 'living' constitution is just another way of saying "we're making this up as we go along" and the "constitution" is just a term or icon for the exercise of power. They want to terminate the death penalty no matter how great the wishes of the people are. Lip service to democracy or representative government.

What was the pain and suffering of the criminal's victims? That is the only measure of concern involved in these cases.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-04-25 09:17||   2007-04-25 09:17|| Front Page Top

#5 I miss Old Sparky.
Posted by imoyaro 2007-04-25 10:05||   2007-04-25 10:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Ya know I almost cared!
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839  2007-04-25 10:39||   2007-04-25 10:39|| Front Page Top

#7 I recall when greenies and anti-death penalty (except in the case of inconveniently timed, unborn baby) advocates held up an gas chamber execution at San Quentin by claiming the toxic emissions violated EPA standards.
My proposed solution was to install another seat, thereby cutting emissions in half, like, today. Put Charlie Manson in the other seat.
Win-win-win, baby!
Anybody want to take a shot at world hunger this afternoon?
Posted by Capsu78 2007-04-25 11:33||   2007-04-25 11:33|| Front Page Top

#8 They say a bullet in the medulla is instantaneous...
Posted by mojo">mojo  2007-04-25 13:24||   2007-04-25 13:24|| Front Page Top

#9 Stabbin' 'em won't cost a dime...
Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek  2007-04-25 13:36||   2007-04-25 13:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Given the choice I'd take a blindfold, some conversation, and a surprise bullet to the head.

Of course it *looks* terrible so it would never go (ask the head of Saigon Police circa 1968).
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-04-25 14:46||   2007-04-25 14:46|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm probably cutting across the grain here but in light of the more "civilized" delivery methods, I don't support the death penalty. As I see it, the problem with the death penalty is that those who committ capital crimes seem to place little, if any, value on their own life nowadays. This has rendered the death penalty, and it's currently favored delivery methods, an inaqequate deterrent.

I think those who commit a capital crime would be better deterred with a more tangible punishment than death. The problem with capital punishment is that you lose your life but there's no pain involved, relatively speaking and the contents of this article not withstanding. In order to deter crime, it is essential that the criminal explicitly understand the price for committing it, and that price should be very high for capital crimes, naturally. People who committ capital crimes usually have little to live for anyways, so losing their own life ranks relatively low on the price scale.

I believe a life sentence of back-breaking hard labor with no creature comforts to speak of might actually prove more effective. In my opinion, it would be more tangible to a criminal who doesn't place a high value on their own life much less those of others.

The question becomes, what do you do to a convict who refuses to work? I'm still working on an answer to that one.
Posted by eltoroverde 2007-04-25 15:13||   2007-04-25 15:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Don't feed him?

The lefties'd love that!
Posted by Bobby 2007-04-25 16:05||   2007-04-25 16:05|| Front Page Top

#13 This has rendered the death penalty, and it's currently favored delivery methods, an inaqequate deterrent.

It preventgs reincidence.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2007-04-25 17:44||   2007-04-25 17:44|| Front Page Top

#14 The journal's editors call for abolishing the death penalty, writing: "There is no humane way of forcibly killing someone."

Just like there's no "humane way" for me to force rotten leftovers down my garbage disposal. What's the point here? Whatever few moments of pain an executed convict experiences — no matter how excruciating — is as nothing compared to the lifetime of pain that the survivors of a murdered relative undergo. One must outweigh the other lest we lose all value for human dignity.

My only problem with the death penalty is that it takes too long to carry out and costs so much to implement. Machiavelli once mentioned how capital punishment must be applied swiftly such that public outrage over the criminal act would not have time to subside.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-04-25 18:29||   2007-04-25 18:29|| Front Page Top

#15 Strap them down, put an air mask over their face, and fill it with helium. They'll never know what hit them because they'll pass out very suddenly with no discomfort or pain after about 15 seconds. I suppose they'd stop breathing after a minute, and then be brain dead in another five. Anybody who doesn't like it can try it for themselves.
Posted by gorb 2007-04-25 18:47||   2007-04-25 18:47|| Front Page Top

#16 In a 'civilized state' there'd be no murders. A little history. Back when the king was trying to establish his and a central authority, the state stepped into the process commonly referred to as vendetta. An eye for an eye, a brother for a brother. To end the cycle of violence among its citizenry, the state assumed responsibility of justice by retaining the death penalty in criminal cases as a third disinterested party. If the state today refuses to carry out its obligation because it feels it is 'uncivilized', then expect the citizens to seek redress elsewhere and the return of vendetta. Ever read Romeo and Juliet? Ever see the first scenes from the Godfather? Notice the gang turf killings in the news? Vendetta is only held in check until the people figure out that there are other alternatives to dealing through the state.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-04-25 20:39||   2007-04-25 20:39|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Anonymoose 2007-04-25 21:07||   2007-04-25 21:07|| Front Page Top

#18 Vendetta is only held in check until the people figure out that there are other alternatives to dealing through the state.

Notice how vendetta features so prominently throughout the MME (Muslim Middle East), and just how crapulently their governments function.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-04-25 21:08||   2007-04-25 21:08|| Front Page Top

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