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2004-04-24 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by tipper 2004-04-24 12:19:35 AM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Rerun.

Posted by someone 2004-04-24 12:24:16 AM|| 2004-04-24 12:24:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Rerun? Maybe. But still worth a repost as a day-starter. As would be articles about Pat Tillman.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-04-24 12:43:01 AM|| 2004-04-24 12:43:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 ..This is by the inimitable Jim Dunnigan, who almost gave Tom Brokaw apoplexy during Desert Storm - there are a lot of people online who pretend to understand the military, he does.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-04-24 1:54:41 AM|| 2004-04-24 1:54:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Whoa! Most Baathists were members of convenience. What G.W. Bush, and his near-sighted ersatz-prophet - Victor Davis Hanson - implemented and support in Iraq, is the effective abolishment of secularism. GWB, an impulsive, rhetoric intoxicated over-achiever, created a power vacuum that Islamofascists filled. Do not mistake one-time elections for democracy.

Yeah, I know most posters here oppose scrutiny of GWB. However, it is a fact that last week he allowed Iranian Shiites to attempt to broker a status quo peace with al-Sadr's animals. And he did that after Ayatollah Rafsanjani fatwahed at a Friday pray meeting, ordering al-Sadr to attack the "wounded American animal." Say it: Bush blew it; VDH is a fellatial gas-bag.

Posted by Man Bites Dog 2004-04-24 5:52:46 AM|| 2004-04-24 5:52:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The 'power vacuum' has already been filled?

Wow - great analysis!

Posted by Rawsnacks 2004-04-24 9:10:23 AM|| 2004-04-24 9:10:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 MBD's head is a vacuum.

Posted by B 2004-04-24 9:35:59 AM|| 2004-04-24 9:35:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 MDG - dead wrong.

Most baathists weere NOT members of convienience. THe loyalty tests, vetting and repressive security measures for anyone as low as local leadership positions was pretty thorough. And very harsh if there was even a percieved slight defect in loyalty to the Party and Saddam.

GWB is not an "intoxicated" anything - nice slur there, cannot defeat the logic so you slime the person - shows the lack of reasoning ability in your position.

Overachiever? Probably. He got where he is by effective management, delegation and then making decisions under risk with analysis. Just the sort of things they teach when you get an MBA. No "Gentleman's C" exist in the graduate schools.

THe "Power Vacuum" was not created. It was set up prior to the war by the Iranian IRG who set Sadr up with the Mahdi Army, and by Hezbollah, and Saddam himself with the Feydayeen Saddam and their pipelining of Hamas and Hezbolla foreign fighers since BEFORE the war started.

As for the Shia negotiating - its the LOCAL leadership in the town that are attempting to negotiate the surrender of the heavy weapons of the mostly FOREIGN fighers in their city - the locals are trying to save their city from being crushed between the Marines and the Syrians/Iranias/Paleos/etc that are there. Isnt liberation supposed to be about giving these peopel a chance to determine their future? Seems we shoudl give them a chance to save thier own town from the terrorist who threaten local police and families with death, and who also are trying to bait the Marines into destructive combat in the city.

Seems the one who blew it is you, and the fellatial gas-bag here is you MBD.

Now go prattle elsewhere before I beat the dog sh*t out out you again (verbally). Your lies will not stand here.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-04-24 10:38:27 AM|| 2004-04-24 10:38:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Old Spook:
Learn to spell, moron. It will help you think.
Those who matter:
You need to ask yourselves if GWB's nation-building plan can work, in context of his suicidal indulgence of Iranian intervention in Iraq, which has now turned into open subversion. On April 9, Iranian Executive Council power-man, Rafsanjani, fatwahed an order to al-Sadr (who he met in June 2003) to "punish the wounded American animal." He could only do that because he knew that the "faith based" jackass in the White House, will continue to indulge Shiite beligerence. The "axis of evil" should be re-named "axis of hollow-rhetoric."

Cut the self-denial crap. The Democratic Presidential campaign is still in the Meet-Kerry stage. And they are already neck-and-neck with GWBs "faith based" squanderers. No matter what human doormats like VDH spew, the $150,000,000,000 spent on Iraq is a bill-of-goods unless Iran is kept away from the 90% of the Mideast oil fields that are in Shiite majority areas. Congress members saw GWB's inept Press Conference last week, and they know a dead duck when they see one. They will force the oil-patch rich brat's hand.

Let this fact impact on your brains: American taxpayers are not going to shell out a trillion dollars for a Shiite-Iraq, controlled by Iran. GWB/VDH can shove this CPA plan up their crappers:
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/regulations/index.html#Orders

Say it: Bush Blew It!

Posted by Man Bites Dog 2004-04-24 3:49:46 PM|| 2004-04-24 3:49:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Picking on my typing skills instead of addressing the facts. How droll.

Whats the matter sonny, Victor far too skilled for you to counter? Is that why you spew so much venom (and what little brainpower you have) to engage in calling him names instead of addressing his reasoning?

First off, let this impact your tightly closed mind: the Shia are not in rebellion. Get the facts, not what you imagine to be the case. Become informed before you speak. Talk to someone over there. I have. It is only in a few cities and concentrated in a few neighborhoods. Around the Mosque in Al Kut, the NW part of Fallujah (mainly Syrians there from what I hear), and a few spots throughout the *SUNNI* triangle area. The trouble is coming mainly from a few funded and trained Iranian groups, and some Syrians and the remnants of the Fedahyeen Saddam Baathists.

Secondly, why are you attacking "faith"? You sound like one of those bigoted anti-religious folk who sneer down their noses at anyone of any faith, but especially so at Christians.

Thirdly, your continued use of pejoratives toward President Bush and others brands you not only as a fool, but a rather cowardly one. Stooping to namecalling ("jackass", "doormat") shows your lack of ability to counter the rhetoric flowing from the other side of the argument - basically it shows that you are intellectually bankrupt. Hows it feel to have revealed that you have nothing in your core position other than grammar school namecalling?

Fourth - I notice you didnt address any of the arguments and facts that I raised - whats wrong, you don't want to address them for fear that you will have to admit that you are wrong? Too bad - you are wrong whetehr you admit it or not - the only difference is whether you continue to delude yoruself into believing what you post is anywhere near reality.

Try addressing the facts. Try finding fault in the reasoning. Try proposing a solution that will work. (none of which you have done at all).

Cite and link to the Fatwha that you claim, from a credible source. The best I can find on that quote given is that it was a political comment, not a fatwha. (And FYI, fatwha is not a verb).

Post facts and proper inferences to support your supposition that peopel assume President Bush to be a "dead duck".

Post a "fisking" refutation of Victor David Hanson's scholarly essays.

I bet you do not - mainly because you are incapable of doing so. The only self delusion here is yours - believeing that you can win an argument when you are comitting fallacy after fallacy, and imparting as much reasoning and information as a chimp. Your level of intellectual discourse is about equivalent to that of a small simian flinging feces at those superior to it.

Your posts are typical of feebleminded people like you MBD. You've shown a stunning lack of intellectual ability and rational capacity. And you compounded it with your replies. Thanks for revealing that not only do you lack the fundamental knowledge that woudl indicate intelligence, you also lack the ability reason with what few poor assumptions you do hold dear.

In sum, as I have pointed out, you've done a marvelous job of demonstrating the behavior of a vacuous worthless shell of a human. I truly pity you if you really believe the bilge you post.

Say it MDB - you just got gobsmacked again, and YOU blew it, you are the fellatial gasbag you claim others to be.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-04-24 8:56:42 PM|| 2004-04-24 8:56:42 PM|| Front Page Top

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