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2004-04-24 Europe

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Posted by Man Bites Dog 2004-04-24 2:43:38 AM|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I'm really happy to see this kind of stuff making the print. The majority of EU and American citizens don't seem to grasp that the Islamic world is united in its goal to bring us a Caliphate.

It took me awhile to believe that a good percentage of the "moderate" Muslims share in this ideal. The bottom line is that their religion (where it's ok to break all laws, agreements and even murder - as long as you are "promoting the spread of Islam") is simply not compatible with a civilized democracy that is based on the freedoms that we hold dear.

The sooner as we address that as the primary problem, the better off we will be. Articles like these help that reality to sink in.

Posted by B 2004-04-24 8:55:14 AM|| 2004-04-24 8:55:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 What do the title and the first comment have to do with the posted text?

Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-04-24 10:37:07 AM|| 2004-04-24 10:37:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The article implies that Italian muslims believe there is a moral equivalence between terrorists and the military forces seeking to suppress them. I think it's a bit of stretch to view this as endorsement of reestablishing the Caliphate.

Living in Italy has had an effect on these folks. They sound more like garden variety Italian communists than jihadis.

Posted by RWV 2004-04-24 11:23:23 AM|| 2004-04-24 11:23:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I think it's a bit of stretch to view this as endorsement of reestablishing the Caliphate.

Not at all. The "against terrorism" bit in their signs is window-dressing, or directed at terrorism that kills Arabs. They hardly mean the type that kills infidels.

And I have no doubt they're getting support from the local communists; the left has once more found a group of third-world thugs to get all warm and fuzzy about.

Mike: Calling for us to stop fighting terrorism is equal to calling for the victory of terrorists. A street protest isn't going to stop the jihad, and these members of the Filth Column are aware of it.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-04-24 11:28:10 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-04-24 11:28:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#5
Judging from this article, this group denounces terrorism and advocates integration. There's nothing here about "letting terrorists win" or about "bringing us a Caliphate."

Don't get me wrong. I dont' subscribe to the criticism of our war in Iraq, which I myself consider to be part of our just war on terrorism. I do grant, though, that there are respectable positions of denouncing both terrorism and that war.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-04-24 11:49:56 AM|| 2004-04-24 11:49:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 We're getting to the point where massive forcible deportation is going to be unavoidable. It really is going to be "them or us."

Posted by mac 2004-04-24 11:58:28 AM|| 2004-04-24 11:58:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 The document asks for the withdrawal of Italian soldiers from Iraq and asks for integration to defeat terrorism.

Mike, I'd agree with you if you could convince me that the majority of moderate Muslims intend to integrate, rather than change us from within. Sorry, I'm not really up listening to the call for prayers on the local loudspeaker when I wake up in the morning.

I'm open to be convinced - it's just that I'd prefer that the Muslim's tell me themselves that this is what they want - instead of others speaking for them.

Posted by B 2004-04-24 12:17:56 PM|| 2004-04-24 12:17:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 A street protest isn't going to stop the jihad, and these members of the Filth Column are aware of it.

Have we tried the stilts? Have we tried the Jesterman? Have we tried 11 chants in the noon day sun? Puppets? See? Give us a chance.

Posted by AntiPasto 2004-04-24 12:42:38 PM|| 2004-04-24 12:42:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 B, Read carefully: "Integration to stop terrorism" is included in the same sentence as "withdrawing Italian troops", which is something only the Italian government can do. They're obliquely saying that if the Italians "integrate" into a future Caliphate (something the Italian government can do via a surrender treaty), there won't be terrorist attacks, since the Koran extends protection over good Dhimmini Christian Italians and Jews.

Everything else is standard LLL, socialist, anti-globalist boilerplate.

Posted by Ptah 2004-04-24 3:17:16 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2004-04-24 3:17:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#10
The posted text says that this particular group denounce terrorism and advocates integration. If you insist, though, I suppose that they do indeed advocate terrorism and denounce integration. WhatEVER!
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-04-24 4:11:00 PM|| 2004-04-24 4:11:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 This last line is what did it for me:

fed by a military industrial complex that feeds obscenely on the blood that it sheds

This is referring to the jihadis, right? /sarcasm

Posted by Rafael 2004-04-24 7:14:59 PM|| 2004-04-24 7:14:59 PM|| Front Page Top

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